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http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/5586/lolxo.png Yeah like you said Polix, people can find any excuse to ban someone from a zone really. But the zone owner is Liito. Not Crimson Blue or Entropy. It really is up to him. Secondly, I don't think thats a nice way to retain population for very long. Yeah I know it's me, who cares about falc. Well sever didn't appreciate their idea of doing things... I don't think most people will eventually either. This is sever, he is on dsb dev too. He is generally a nice guy. Even he is going back to see how retarded they can get? This is all ridiculous..

Well be happy and remove me from your forums. lol

Go ahead didn't you already network ban me? For no reason. My conscience is clear. I didn't even open CMD. I don't even have anyones IP LOL

:beer hunter:hey beer hunter can you unban me (Beer Hunter)>Ignored :Beer Hunter:lets see how long that lasts :ent:hey ent are you there :ent:hey ent can you unban me (Ent)>no :Ent:why not (Ent)>you crossed the line, dude (Ent)>again :Ent:you think that ban is justified? :Ent:LOL (Ent)>yes :Ent:your a joke :Ent:i can trace anyone i want :Ent:or my friend could, i cant stop my friend :Ent:i said my friend would do it LOL :Ent:and you ban me :Ent:haha :Ent:dude google traces your ip to find searches near your location :Ent:you have access to where i live etc :Ent:fair is fair :Ent:its like using a phone book :Ent:there is no law anywhere saying i cant use tracert in cmd :Ent:there are even website provided to trace :Ent:you are ridiculous :Ent:unban me now (Ent)>lol 1) threatening a trace like that is bannable in and of itself (Ent)>2) i live in a city of millions of people, so good luck :Ent:if i want to know what country someone is in, ILL FIND OUT, weather i announce it or not, and you wouldn't be the wiser :Ent:LOL there is no zone security threat :Ent:lol you think i would go and see you? jokes, i dont work remember :Ent:i dont even go and see my ex girlfriend :Ent:your not that special next? :Ent:unban me :Ent:but i can be curious where someone lives all i want to :Ent:why dont you ban cheaters :Ent:moron (Ent)>we do, but you ruin the game for a lot of people :Ent:LOL :Ent:did you see me ruin anyones game todaay :Ent:or was it that dsb staff was ruining mine :Ent:treating me like shit, etc :Ent:killing for no reason :Ent:gag for no reason again :Ent:with no warnings :Ent:i made a map for 2 hours, no one wants to come see it :Ent:your a joke :Ent:fix yourselves, before you pass judgment on me :Ent:prejudice assholes :Ent:unban me, you have no viable reason to keep me banned :Ent:you can grab anyone and call them a threat to zone security, they dont need to announce what they are doing, and most likely real threats wouldn't :Ent:fucking reminds me of bush administration and his war on terror now :Ent:LOL :Ent:dsb is a threat level red :Ent:Falconeer said he would trace us! :Ent:he has weapons of mass destruction :Ent:FOX news reports in DSB :Ent:LOL

Ip trace there is no laws against it, in any country. Its like me going to phone book, and looking up phone number, and dsb staff has access to all my info, so fair is fair. I'm free to have access to any information I want really. Google traces your Ip every day. It's how you get search results near your location. So now they banned me for "Zone security threat" of course there is no threat, they have no case. And I actually never did anything yet. P.S Polix I am tracing your IP too. I also included other logs of being killed for no reason by crimson in my private arena earlier today. As well as dev team refusing to work with me. Go figure? You can even see a plea to argyle telling him dsb staff is ridiculous. And of course before all of this, they wouldn't even tell me who made a map etc. http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/5161/18649106.png http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/747/10538886.png http://img863.imageshack.us/img863/1170/74749471.png http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/6956/44835770.png http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/8983/48532376.png http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/8745/85760064.png http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/8448/78678795.png

I have to pay to visit? F that

Lol that in itself is funny.

Nice attitude of DSB staff. I don't need to post screenshots when they represent themselves so well. Hence 15-30 player zone. And no progress whatsoever. 3 months waiting for a duel bot, and Practice bot. The moron has time to come impress me on ssforums, than finish coding the bot he said he would have done in 1 week. 3 months later keep failing. Even devastation puts out more content than DSB. And most would assume they are in a worse position population wise. But it seems people actually care there. And the zone is way better off.

I did, but I accidentally turn it on when doing something else, over the course of months, then shut it off again etc etc.

Clearly if they don't know what they are talking about. I should provide more screenshots, and logs. I'll use these recent events to start. Jesster> I take it day by day in my spaceship Falconeer> I take your mom day by day Crimson Warns me not to be offensive LOL http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/2001/abuse1.png Beer cracks a joke at me about being a virgin. Daily topic in dsb staff is how they should ban me FYI. In the spirit of joking, I make a joke back. Beer can't take a joke like I can, and gags me. http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/5961/abuse2.png Joke continued, and I got gagged again http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/5614/abuse3.png Sulla gagged for 10 minutes for saying he likes to kill all the black people in GTA. LOL http://img862.imageshack.us/img862/9858/abuse4.png There is even worse things. I don't care if the punishments were a gag for 1 second. You should be following your own DSB rules. Not expect people to follow non existent rules. Make a rule saying no Your Mom Jokes. And I won't say your mom jokes. Make a rule saying you will be gagged if your name is falconeer. And I will login with a different name. The other day I was told to stop NKZ killing. WTF? First off people have been NKZ killing in DSB since they added NKZ'S in the deathstar. Jack M comes to mind. No one warned him. Staff encouraged it actually. So then what exactly is this non existent rule? Don't kill inside the nkz? I leave the nkz to make my kills. If I am out of the nkz for 2 seconds. That means I have the same chance to kill someone, as they have the chance to kill me. It's fair. It works both ways. Opportunism is against the rules? Then ban people who chase me when they know I am Emped? How about that for opportunism? No killing around the NKZ? Um we all spawn inside the deathstar next to nkz. And all the fighting IS AROUND NKZ'S. So where is the rule specifying the distance we are allowed to kill from nkz? And do you really want to enforce such a rule when 10 people are all spawning inside the deathstar and fighting near NKZ's? What a joke. So result of that was engine shut down. When I said all this to Crimson, he didn't respond, and eventually freed my ship. It's like they are kids. They know they are wrong, and you need to teach them or something. All they really need to do is write up proper rules if they are disturbed.

Meh I don't want people to start thinking I act different here from DSB forums. Here corrected it. Your* stays always though.

Were you born a retard? You proved how Mods can Abuse even with my system? That's what you said. Which means you admit you abused for starters. Good I am glad we are getting somewhere. So now to point out why you are a retard. My system involves 12 people. Not 1 Abusive Sysop. You proved nothing. With 12 people in the loop the Sysop can not abuse. The Sysop doesn't even vote. They just approve votes of others. If its only moderators, then 1 person can abuse easily, and claim they are enforcing DSB rules. Or claim they are doing what the community wants. How about you let the community decide what they want, and stop telling us what you think they want. And you still never used the system I proposed. Let me know when you are ready to. What people don't know here is that DSB Staff abuses gag because they get angry and can't ban players since that type of punishment is losing its appeal in DSB. I have been gagged plenty of times with no warnings, and killed, and I have used no racism, and did no spam. Prove otherwise. And then explain yourself. All I do is express my opinion. Define spam, show me the DSB rules I break. Where are the rules? Lets go further you guys gagged Dark Chemist, and initially he didn't do anything. Of course after being gagged 30 times, he got pissed off and started to act out. Lets be honest, most racism is overlooked when staff is there, and half the time staff isn't even in the zone. You guys gag based on personal preferences and personal vendettas, because I sometimes point out why the zone and you are failing. I would easily stop that, all you have to do is make a rule, and put it on the website. Players can not tell staff why the zone is failing. I always follow rules. Just make sure they exist first.

This one has a point. Did it never occur to you that letting the population ban/silence/kick other players on demand might be a tad exploitable? Edit: If the big problem in DSB is the staff, why not just start over. Fire every single staffer and hire other players. If the zone staff can't fix its own problems, how do you expect it to fix other people's problems anyhow? I'm happy with ?ignore, but staff isn't. They want to gag players. And have an auto gag feature so players can't evade. Mostly because they agreed that Bans for stupid things like talking was too extreme. So I proposed a vote-gag bot. If you ever played games like Ultima online 1999, where you have full player killing, looting, and house looting. You would know that systems with complete freedom, although you expect chaos, have complete social order instead. People go out of their way to make friends in those games, so they don't get killed every second. And they watch what they say, there is a lot of mutual respect etc. This is why if you have a properly coded bot, such a system could never be abused. You can program it like this for example. 50 people in the zone. The bot gauges who is active. 20 Active. So you need 12 votes or 60% to gag someone roughly. That's 12 people. You think thats easy? The person would have to be really going out of their way to piss off half a zone. Then Staff approves or declines the 12 votes to gag the player. And its a fair thing, without staff involvement. No blame games. You obviously never entered DSB. And while it seems like I am opposed to staff, it's basically the whole zone, who has no respect, trust, or belief in DSB STAFF. And this is in large part due to their methods, policies that they keep from Hoch, and way of running staff itself. I only proposed a vote gag bot, because its way better than staff having full control with zero transparency and abusing gags. Which they have done several, several times already. I doubt staff would remove themselves. I don't think people are so useless they should be removed either. At the most demoted and promoted based on what they do, and their activity. Beer hunter for example never players. He sits in spec all day. He never greets players even. He doesn't even talk in spec. Yet he is sysop. He doesn't code, but I don't blame him for not knowing how to code. However he doesn't map either. And anyone can map. For example I would demote Beer Hunter instantly, and tell him if he wants Sysop, he needs to play the game, and do certain things. People who go inactive should be removed, and if at any time they want to come back, can easily get back their old position. We have a zone owner liito who logs in every 8 days. This isn't very inspiring to a dying zone. What gets me the most is when I bring up things, ideas, leagues, stuff that needs to be fixed, or improved upon. Many people in staff, including entropy, manwhore, and others, reply with Who cares? I care. You should care. If you don't care then why are you on staff? It's obvious how much they care anyway I don't need to prove it. Just enter DSB and watch the 1vs1 game.

My system was with staff approval first of all. So you did not test my system. If you DID however as staff approve that. Then you proved staff approves abusive things. So all the more reason they should not be using a bot as an ENFORCER. You just abused powers. You never asked if I would agree to being gagged. I said you couldn't get votes and that's all I said. And if you did call "The vote gag bot is up" Not a single person would have typed !votegag falconeer to the bot. It won't be abused, lets do a real test, put the bot up and you will see. But I guess you only give yourself chances to prove people wrong. You wouldn't dare give me a chance to prove you wrong. Because You would lose. Sorry i only see three 1's on the screen, and in the chat log. You had only three votes. I don't care who else you assume would vote. You told them to type 1. If they didn't then you lost the vote. You knew you lost and abused your own vote, and powers to prove some point that the system would be abused. But it wouldn't be abused. Especially if you do it the way I tell you. You are just afraid it will work as usual. I already explained the point of a voting system. The players are not the middle men. THEY ARE THE DECIDERS. Staff doesn't vote, or decide who gets gagged at all. They just approve or disapprove the vote so there is no abuse. Like If I entered pub and said nothing and got vote gagged when I said nothing. The whole reason staff doesn't decide is to keep them objectively out of it. No room for abuse, and no room for people who get gagged to hate on staff afterward. Hence a positive and friendly environment then. However if we do things your way you can see how I am blaming staff. That's because it was not objective, it was not by a bot at all. And it was not voted on by the community. You created more problems than it was worth, and this is why everyone discredits or dislikes DSB STAFF.

Yeah i said nothing to deserve a gag. No insults, no Racism, just opinion on my own IDEA. I never agreed to Ents test. I was saying you can't get votes to gag me. If your capable of reading English that means, you can't get votes, it doesn't mean if you get votes to gag me. Make more excuses, when you know you are wrong. You also only had 3 votes on yes. And 1 vote on No. Pro Turret joking doesn't matter. If he joked with the bot the bot would count it as a No. If this was a proper test you would do it with a bot, and not INSINUATE and/or Use your INFLUENCE as a Sysop, to ask for votes. 3 Votes, when it was clear in a 22 player zone, at least 12 people were active at the moment, and you needed 50% half. 3 VS 6. You and Entropy are either blind, or can't count. Then changing it from a TEST, to saying I deserved it. Your integrity is wavering for a reason. That usually happens with liars. They tell one story and then keep changing it when you keep asking questions. Good Job Fail Zone.

This is whats wrong with DSB all the time. The people in Charge. I kept saying we should have a bot which Auto Gags players based on a voting system. So people can not evade gags. I also promote that Bans should only be for cheaters, and gags only used in extreme circumstances. The whole purpose of this bot is to protect players objectively. This way when someone gets gagged by a bot. No one can turn around and blame the bot. If ten people in the community choose to gag a player. No one can blame the community for something they brought upon themselves. People claim the system can be abused with votes. But I said you can have the MOD or Sysop on duty approve the vote once it's done. This in turn removes all staff involvement from protecting DSB Rules. No one can say staff abused when all staff did was approve a vote by 10 players, and no one can claim the bot is at fault for following programming. FYI I explained the bot can gauge who is active in the 22 player zone. I know bots can calculate who talked last and how long ago it happened. So if 12 people are active in a 22 player zone, and you program the gag bot to gag with 50% votes. We would have needed 6 votes to gag me. Ent only had 4 votes, in his personal poll to gag me. And he still went through with it. Trying desperately to prove his point and act superior. (Are you kidding it's not the same thing. Are all zone owners born retarded?) Then what does Ent do? Furious that I disagree with him, he decides to "test" my idea. Though if he was a scientist he would know this is not a controlled test. He contaminated it by calling his own vote for who wants to gag me. Bots do not call for votes first of all. Which already shows why his test was wrong. Secondly treating people like guinea pigs? Without their permission? If someone forces you to take drugs for research. I am pretty sure that's abuse. A real test would have been to make the bot, and have a vote system, and see what happens with this new feature in place. At least any sensible person would agree. The whole reason for my idea, was that it would remove this scrutiny and blame game, and hatred toward DSB staff. My idea was doing them a favor. Instead they didn't follow my idea. Sure they made a gag bot. But it's an enforcer now. The op's have direct control, and tell the bot to auto gag whoever they want. And the community obviously has no part. This means staff will abuse gags, and the viscous circle of hating DSB staff will continue into oblivion. And yes they have abused gags before. In fact come to DSB if you want to be used for DSB STAFFS tests. To cover his failure. He says it was a test. Then changes the story saying I deserve it? So from an objective reason for gagging me, he goes to a personal one? Really now? And If I had these gags A LONG TIME COMING. Why didn't he just gag me two weeks ago, or a month ago? Or immediately after I said whatever I said to deserve the gag? Why wait 3 months and then say i deserved it 1-3 months later? COULD IT BE I BREAK NO DSB RULES?

Whats wrong with dsb, is that dsb staff keeps asking this question..

Unless the creator of the map gives permission for his/her map to be used elsewhere then it can't be used? If that's the case that's fine. And obviously DSB mapper is long gone, and we aren't even sure who made the map, so the map is there's. It is also mainstream. But I still disagree on tile-sets. I think all graphics should be freely distributed. Especially if you have 20 minutes to watch that video. She makes perfect sense. Not trying to steal population. I was thinking of lending my map to friend who owns a zone. But he said biller won't allow it if it uses the tileset I made it on. I am not staff at my friends zone. I don't even play there. He didn't even ask. I offered and he likes the map.

I heard you can't use tiles from other zones, or maps? What kind of joke is this. Some self righteous subspace council, you all own zones, talk about how subspace is free because you have the freedom to create anything you want. And then because you are zone owners you get together on a subspace council and blacklist people for doing just that? Wow are we 25 yet? Or still 14? Don't be like Hoch and say something stupid. Do you know what Hoch had in his Development rules. DSB Staff wrote on an actual document, which is given to everyone in the DEV team that anything uploaded on the server is property of Hoch and DSB. Regardless if it becomes mainstream or is never used, and regardless if you the actual creator spent 1 year making it, or put all your talent and design into it. It's suddenly not yours anymore. What a joke. And anyone who enforces anything similar is equally a joke. Tiles, graphics, should be distributed freely among zones, one zone should be able to take tiles and edit them from another zone, or even use parts of that tileset. It's not a big deal. Especially when zones like EG are making a new tileset every other month. THIS should actually be PROMOTED, ENCOURAGED, AND GENERALLY A LOVED IDEA. If you knew anything about marketing you would know why. It's because the more an idea is stolen, the more it forces people to keep creating ideas, and making new tilesets. Pretty soon SUBSPACE would have so many tilesets, even if every zone stole one, they would all be unique. Competition sparks creativity. But if you start enforcing rules, embargo's, blockades, then suddenly subspace itself becomes a stagnant piece of crap. Which is currently what is happening. And maybe you should watch this video before you take time to reply to this post. http://www.wimp.com/freeculture/ Secondly maps? Really? I made my map in dsb. And if I want it to be in another zone, who is DSB to tell me no on my own creative work? Something I worked on for months. All by myself. If Biller wants to shut down a server because my map is on it and I approved that map being on that server. Then you guys have serious personal and management issues. I notice in tons of zones a lot of events are being remade, and copied, and people give credit where its due. They write in the arena that the original event is from EG, or Trench wars. That type of representation is all that is needed. Let content be free.

Happy Birthday, I actually noticed this from DSB forums this morning, Was wondering when a Birthday thread would pop up here lol.

This is one of the reoccurring problems with subspace. It's like part of a list of reoccurring problems. The problem is no one ever documented solutions... EVERYTIME someone brings these problems up someone goes. OH YEAH i had that before.. And when you ask how they fixed it, they can't remember... WE REALLY need to write this shit down somewhere someday. There is a way to fix these problems. Sometimes they fix themselves, but I am sure there is a fix.

Nice thanks, maybe I'll give it another try

Um Intel SSD Solid State Disk X25-M 2.5" 120GB SATA2 Why? I'm pretty sure I posted an Intel SSD which is 120gig and twice as fast, for 50$ more. Just spend the extra 50$ Case: CoolerMaster CM 690 II This case has nothing on Thermaltakes cases.. Can't find your Mobo on any sites, http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131642&cm_re=rampage-_-13-131-642-_-Product Rampage ftw! But mobos are all pretty much the same I guess. RAM: Samsung DDR3 4096MB 1333Mhz CL 9-9-9-27 Um this ram is terrible isn't it? Unless I am mistaken? I thought the higher the timing numbers the worse it is. 9-9-9-27? its not even 24.. And 1333 instead of 1600?

windowed has no ticker though, and resolution is different =/ can't copy and paste anything either

Well my old PC could play all games for 4 years. Basically until Direct x11 came out. Even then most directx11 Games had an option to use a lower directx. But now its 6 years later, and my old PC is obsolete even though its fast and can do a lot and still play a wide selection of decent games. Now I have my new computer since 2009, and it's 2.5 years later. Still using 5870 graphic card. I suspect in another 3 years 5870 will be able to play most things maxed out. Even if it can't my computer is just really fast. Nothing would need an upgrade except the graphic card.