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Priorities: ---------------------- 1. Update current map tileset for use by base makers wishing to submit bases for the January map update. We could publish a CLT project do ease the process. The tileset update does not need to be completely new - only update tiles that are in need of graphical updates. 2. Finish new tileset and CLT project lvz to be used for HSFL. 3. Put together updated map for HSFL using player base submissions.

12/17/2007 1. Received a completed base by Charmed3. Nice work! 2. Received a base outline by Sinn. Please tile it using the current tileset. 3. Updated settings in bombsquare for burt0n. 4. Updated map and setts in bombline for Sharpflame.

12/16/2007 1. Uploaded setts into bombline arena and set the map to bombline.lvl by Sharpflame 2. Created arena for bombsquare and set the map to bombsquare.lvl by Burt0n 3. Created arena for the new HS Flagging league and uploaded map by Got Bounty? 4. Imported hstown sector by uberlalzar into sector 92.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NEXT BASE UPDATE: Early Spring 2008 Base designers: we are not accepting bases for the new map at this time. However, if you would like to add a base to the general test arena, you may do so by following the "Base Publishing" directions below. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BASE PUBLISHING If you want to publish a base please see Dr Brain in the zone.

I was pretty sure that I made that base (under an alias Tascar or NitroDart) because the style matches but I didn't tile it - someone else did. I could be mistaken.

Yes that person still makes bases for HS and is responsible for construction of the next map.

I think the primary argument here needs to be the way HS is played. If players are looking to make it become a modified EG or worse (RS, Fusion, etc) then that is one style of play - but what I've seen is that players like sitting on a strong defensive base (probably instinctually) which requires attack to use the special tools designed in the zone. EG and RS style flagging is burned out - do players want to resort back to that? Wouldn't that destroy the uniqueness of the zone?

Looks great!

No, I'm not mistaken and I hope that others will read the log which clarifies to the point that Jonus would never had designed anything like what you see in that post without having first had a insider's view of my designs which was granted to him in trust. If you are using ships that do not reflect my original design then I digress my statement about your Starship Troopers zone. When you release it I hope it does well on it's own originality.

Well, here's the deal: Jonus is the one who copied my design. He had copied the DS style ships before seeing what I had done then afterwards immediately changed his ships to match the ones I had shown to him. Now, Jonus has gone and given his shipset out to other zones like Starship Troopers and uses them in his own zone Super Fortress 2. Jonus, you have proven that you have no honor and that you'll go out of your way to harm people who put their trust in you. Because of this, I hope that folks reading this will remember how Jonus operates and will not support him, his zone, or things he claims to have designed. Like the Chinese, he simply stole what was shown to him with trust and puts his name on it. I hope that the ss community will not support him. Thanks.

thanks guys

Freakmonger was willing to host my new zone however it wouldn't be worth launching a 1/2 completed design. Therefore, against my better will, I'll keep my design in the test zone for now and when it's ready I'll bring it out. Best I can do. :/

heh, here I thought you'd spend it on something important!

...Like?

I might be more inclined to enter if i knew i had some chance at winning something. If $100 goes to the top winner and 2nd place gets nothing, then NO. However, if you breakdown the total $100 into small parts for the top 10, that might get me to play. For instance... 1st place, $25. 2nd $20, 3rd $15, 4th $10, and 5th through 10th get $5 each (maybe a gift cert). Maybe the top 20 entries get something...maybe the top 20 to compete get special prizes in zone in addition to the chance to win a top 10 place. I dunno - giving $100 to one person seems wrong. We did that in Omega Fire and it didn't do much to attract population.

I'd agree that there is a lot of redundancy in ss and this is well known - usually players are quick to call it out. However, your claim to a map from 00-01 is much further out on the dartboard than having a competing zone make something aggressively similar to their compe!@#$%^&*ion. If you'd like Psyops to give you credit, take it up with him - however, I'm doubtful that you care about having your name on the maps as there is no gain. Similarily, I designed the digital jackpot graphic swarming around most dev pop zones and I don't go around asking for credit for it. (someone else designed the code). Alpha zone however stands to lose a little bit of population from Chaos' move and therefore it is of much higher value perhaps than you !@#$%^&*ess. Let's be sure we're comparing apples to apples. And Polix, hopefully you got my AIM last night and can see why this topic is close at heart.

Agreed, that would set the situation right I think.

Well guys, thanks for your advice. I'm going to talk to tt about getting space on a subgame platform and I'll cross my fingers.

I think the original argument has merit and can be qualified by what goes on in the corporate world. People take ideas and simply repackage them and call it theirs. Psyops DOES have a valid claim because their is so much underlying similarities. Unfortunately, there are two ways to handle this. First, Psyops could torment the other zone in attempts to deface and humiliate it for obviously repackaging his ideas. This normally doesn't turn out well for the person doing the badgering as he is seen as an !@#$%^&* by the population. The other alternative is to handle it as has been done - illustrate that there are striking similarities in the copied design and call out the copier. Anyone with integrity would acknowledge that they had copied the design and would try to set the situation right. Seeing as the copier did not do this proves that they have indeed copied the design and repackaged it and that they are not trustworthy individuals. Hopefully the population and staff that works for that person understand this and seek to work under a better team. However, I don't expect that most of the faceless souls in subspace have little more integrity than a box of cracker jax.

Without naming names, please lend me your opinion about this situation... I've been working on a zone, in my spare time, over the past several months. I feel that I've created graphics which add something different to the game. Recently, I brought another ss player to my zone to see the work which I had completed. He was amazed and in awe at my work having complemented it several times. Within a week after showing him my zone this ss player who is able to make graphics, took the definitive parts of my design and duplicated them for use in his own zone. When I asked him about this, he made claims such as "These are hand designed" and "these are different because i added...(x)". Basically, the form and figure of his graphics closely mirrors that which I had created. I'm not worried about this other than to say it's a matter of bringing out my zone faster than he will in order to clarify who is the copyright and original owner of the form and figure of the design. What advice would you give to me in this situation?

The existing website is nice - it's been reliable. That's a good thing, right?

thanks

hey, I think I got called a noob. darn.

...then it died. (Oh, you so left yourself open to that! hahaha jk bud)

lol, no - newb player for hacking. duh