Metal Gear actually died thanks to implementations that had begun moving towards an HS style zone. So HSCore would just keep it dead. Once we shrunk to a smaller map and got rid of the bot, the pop began coming back. When you have a small population, the game becomes boring when there is so much map to run and hide on, and nothing had been done to fix this. It also turns 1 sided or takes forever to get to the other end, and many just stop playing after a few mins. But the final Nail was a certain player promising league, getting promotions to run it, then once he got such promtions suddenly didn't have time and didn't really have anything to hand over. Turned out to be all talk, and the players felt betrayed another time and gave up. Penny then gave them hope a final time, a few came back, but just wasn't enough to keep things lively and support leagues. Those issues, and many of the players hated Testtube. So without him it might work, but they have been let down so many times, dunno how many would come back.