Old players are the worst people to consult about changes, if your goal is to have a popular zone (this is not Hyperspace's goal, but I don't consult with vets for entirely different reasons). * They've usually lost all touch with newbies, so have no idea what will attract new players. * They don't play as much as they used to, because they're older and more responsible IRL. * They tend to be very set in their ways. So I applaud trench for changing things despite its crotchety vets.