I don't really want to get into this thread, but I'd just like to highlight that these statistics are all waaay off. American Population: 307,006,550 Rate of Crime: 11,877,218 Crime Rate Point: 25.84 UK Population: 61,399,118 Rate of Crime: 6,523,706 Crime Rate Point: 9.41 Germany Population: 82,140,043 Rate of Crime: 6,507,394 Crime Rate Point: 12.62 French Population: 62,048,473 Rate of Crime: 3,771,850 Crime Rate Point: 16.45 The USA nearly doubles those leading countries, apart from the French, who fail. Also, rating England and Wales together is also misleading, as they're two different countries. You should rate either as the United Kingdom, or England/N.Ireland/Scotland/Wales separately. Also, here are the murders per capita (what matters) for each country. The United States ranks much higher than the other countries. Reply to the Topic: I figured that 'being American' meant that you are a citizen. Seeing as America is only two-hundred-and-something years old (since founded), you only need to skip back a few generations to realize how pointless this whole argument is. For example, I was born in Ireland, have Irish parents yet have both a British and an Irish passport (dual nationality). Therefore, I am Irish, yet a British citizen.