I guess to get back on topic I should state my opinion, since it is the only one that matters w/ these forums (j/k... or am I?). Me and Ghost had once discussed this long ago during all our talks about the most recent release of continuum. We had set out ideas, duties, and plans for ourselves, along w/ plans for things for MTN to do w/ the council. If this made it to mike, I dunno, I don't recall telling him, but I do remember relaying a lot of me and ghost's phone conversations to him. But one such thing was really getting away from the closed mailing list, and trying to open up a more general ssc discussion. The Council itself has no power without Ghost to do really anything. Yes, as he'd state, he will listen to them, and 90% of the time do as they ask. But if he doesn't like something for any gut reason, he won't do it, no matter how much they want it, IE: their main flaw. Only being a handfull of zones, they can't really act biller wide upon anything w/out him. Now w/ the SSC forum, they don't need Ghost AS MUCH, as w/ more zones working together, any actions outside of biller control, can be more easily done/pursued. Not saying it will happen on every topic, but just if there is a wider discussion/acception of an action, that helps inforce it. Rather then this small elitist group deciding things, half of them being inactive to current situations the players see, and forcing it upon zones whose owners are normally more active, and wonder "WTF MATE?". Now, I personally could care less where it is at, just that finally it has been done. Anyways, gotta goto work...