talion

"Mission accomplished," isn't that what that banner said on the carrier? I think the mission was to avenge good ol' Pops. That's my conspiracy theory. Not much of one I know... Saddam was put in by the USA, wasn't he? It was before my time so I don't really know either way. But it does seem ironic. In any event, you are correct. The UN did succeed. And in the Sunday Toronto Star they say Bush's cabinet is breaking at the seams, especially Powell, which is a shame because he's the only sane one on there. And you can't beat Bush's ringing endorsements: Rumsfeld is a "really good" defense secretary. Did you know?

just saw this nugget of wisdom in your post delic. i'd say that's because 17th jav has this nasty tendency to promote over firing. add in the fact you're giving svs pilots the rotation of a wb, the fire spread of a terrier... well you see how it is. very astute observation. well taht was amusing to write. but im finished my ice cream now.

i'm sorry delic. you were owned tempest just said everything that needed saying right here.

i played 17th when it was north vs south delic, as a pure pub player. it was not what it is now. what you have now is different, for sure. better? who can say. i don't miss weasels wall bombing everywhere, or spiders dominating bases (alot) more than they do today, or blue lamecaster bombs flying everywhere in the middle. 17th is better off today than it was then population wise. and that was "true" 17th, and always has been in my mind. and i'm sorry if you disagree with that, because future incarnations have inevitably gotten farther and farther from the vietnam concept than the original, as the original was pretty much as close to it as subspace could/can get.

i think not, lamer.

yes delic, we all betrayed 17th parallel, the greatest ideal ever in subspace, no, human, history! lol gimme a break. you don't have the old sysops, you don't have the old settings, and it's unlikely either will return. so why don't you try making new settings, instead of -*BAD WORD*-ing ad nauseum about how "great" the old settings were. you can do what i do when i start waxing poetic about how much i sometimes hate chaos pub, you go to a subarena which you like. when you're sitting in spec doing other things, go to the arena you want to "vote" for. more words don't make you more right.

delic is a professional second guesser, rice.

what else would you base 17th on then. someone else said it before: only hockey and proball feature soccer. they are both also very different from 17th's version of soccer. 17th soccer is unique. i suspect "vets" dont respect it for some other reason. and this zone always talks about settings changes but they rarely happen and whenever they do happen they get slammed. and noone gets paid to put up with it. i forget wher ei was going with this end transmission

lol, who do you expect to read that. someone summarize in one 10 line paragraph please? lol

crap apple omg you found teh conspiracy!!!!!!!!!!!!111111

i didn't -*BAD WORD*- that match up, i've said that a hojillion times. so i actually havent, but it feels like it. luckily it was a squad apple was a part of (or so i recall), so it was doomed anyways. and i'm insulted you'd think i'd forge something i've never forged anything but calculus homework. this is what i mean, you don't get rules and by extension leagues. i never read anything about elim league but if you could do it it must have been an EZ PZ LEAGUE to organize. his rules weren't confusing and stupid, they were essentially imaginary. as in, they barely existed as something extra to the rules at a1. provocation delivered, and risen to! can i have some of what you got suse i mean your drugs, not mojo.

wzc did not rawk. don't know what you're smoking suse, but i was once in that arena with more than 10 people and it didn't "rawk." hope you're being facetious. anyways, vile is about right. unfortunately this zone lets -*BAD WORD*- disturbers on staff, and the competent people are not inclined to join staff. anyways, that's about as much as i'm willing to conjure up in the reasoning department, so i think i'm done. oh wait, i'm not. you have to make people want to play the zone, in all arenas. i still play 17th sometimes but it gets fairly boring, no matter what arena you are in. too much elitism, i say. so you say "but talion, you -*BAD WORD*-ing suck at subspace" to which i respond that's true, but that doesn't give you the right to treat me like a newbie. it happens in all zones really. some person who has only ever played 17th parallel in the public arena for, say, 100 hours and some day decides to give this new fangled "sbl/jwl" thing a try. he shows up to find that he doesn't get picked, and an incompetent ER that can't figure out how to use *setfreq, which is made abundantly clear by the "vets" complaining in pubchat. then, once the ER takes pity and puts all the pubbers on one team as an extra freq (in jwl), or as random subs into teams, they are in an event that once you die once, the pain train doesn't stop. vulching is how 17th events are played. ESPECIALLY jwl and rumble. SOUND FUN? and just to be provocative, blue should never have had his hands on any leagues. sever/jim for that matter too. if you can't write clear, concise, competent rules, or understand them, you shouldn't be anything more than a player. anyways, i don't dislike you blue, but you just didn't get leagues. i like double negatives.

kent's avatar as x'terrania, or whatever he/she/it calls itself now.

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

hahahahahahahahahah first time i've laughed reading these forums. good work kent.

So if you didn't vote for Bush, if you voted at all, you voted for who then? The other other republican? Anyways, we kind of strayed from the original theme. Below is quoted your first post on this thread. "yawn, im not impressed." What would it take to impress you? A mushroom cloud over Baghdad? Well, this isn't as engaging as my earlier post was to write, so I'm stopping here. MonteZuma already said it all anyways. I just don't understand how such images can "not impress" you. As for pictures of the shredded up GIs, those are probably controlled by the pentagon. Pictures of coffins covered in American flags only recently got into the media, and it was mentioned in some thread on ssforum that they are already being buried by the media. I don't watch CNN or any news network for long periods of time, but it seems to be all about Jacko, and Marines fighting, never dying.

Anyone on this side of the Atlantic (that is to say, the North American side) has no right to the "you're all talk, you do nothing" at!@#$%^&*ude. You did nothing for Bush except vote for him, which I find unlikely given that your choice of punctuation and spelling leads me to believe you weren't eligible in 2000. That aside, Monte is about right. Humans may be animals beneath all our social conventions, but without those conventions we are no better than gorillas, with the ability to wipe out all life on this planet. Saying that some killer instinct takes over in high-stress situations may have some merit, but I would think someone with the discipline and training that the armies of the world provide would be able to switch that instinct on and off. I for sure don't want the Canadians in Iraq now coming back and still having their brains set on "kill all hostiles" when they come back. That is NOT socially acceptable behaviour in any situation but the military - in combat! If a soldier can't exhibit the strength, or discipline even, to control themselves once the fighting is over, they shouldn't be soldiers. They should be cannon fodder, because I sure as -*BAD WORD*- don't want people like that living in my country. zig your ignorance is amazing. i had something in here about hoping the recruiters hit your town first when the draft gets implemented, but realized you're probably underage for that. oh well. no further text.

war is ugly, who said it wasn't? i saw a clip of an interview (Again, on teh daily show) that had bush saying "i think of myself as a war president." then jon stewart: "why didnt you say that in 2000?!" in other news, if i were american i'd be very very afraid right now of the big D word. cue the republicans lining up to defend their insanity... http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=...draft&printer=1

spawning int he place you died is something i have !@#$%^&*ociated with hz. i haven't encountered that anywhere else.

it would be new to 17th, and i don't see any other good ideas on here that are new either. ladd's idea is basically HZ, unless he's leaving out a large portion of the event. as for the sets being even, weasels might find it alot more difficult if there was an element of elimination involved in a 4v4 league. i said it before, and this is the last time i will say it. either way enjoy your craptacular "new" event, whatever it ends up being.

i had the misfortune of playing swr's version of premier (4v4) once. tbh it wasn't that bad though. just very silly. it was fun, despite my extreme rust at the sets and the silliness of said sets. it could work in 17th, and i said that when i was staff too. noone listened then and noone will probably listen now, but whatever. i'll stick where i'm at until y'all break down, and when you finally get your heads out of your lower body cavities i'll give your version a shot. until then, i will troll you into oblivion. no further text

this is a joke, right? greening is the WORST PART about ANY subspace zone. ive found that, in general, as "required" greening (that is, to get to the max guns/bombs/toys you can green) goes up, the slower the pace becomes of the zone because the focus comes off of getting kills and turns more into not dying and "having to green all over again" anyways, whatever you do, just don't change wb, that is the easiest ship in subspace compared to other ships in the zone lol. brilliant way to blow off some shteam.

engine shut down effects rotation too your turrets wouldn't last very long at all.

aml boards have been around for a while now, and he's one of the semi-trashtalkers. anyways, that forum system is for all the 4v4 leagues, and the development, and general forum. so there's lots to spa... post about. anyways, im keeping count for you rice. keep up the good work.

no, you take a screenshot of your 1337th post, then you make it into your signature someone did that on the aml boards for their 666th post.