Just a quick timeline adjustment zone = 100 pop Elite One is head sysop with Dire Wolf right by his side. I ran dueling league, while jim simultaneously ran the first season of jwl. pop = 20 A few months later late fall/winter of the same year. Set were same as 100 population. Elite One, and Dire Wolf both resigned from their respective positions, along with a few other staffers. Zeke newly promoted to sysop, and I do believe Enterprise was head sysop. The zone had 20 players in it, on average, with no change in gameplay/setting/maps for over 8 months. Zeke was a good man for doing what he did. If not for Zeke, and the 17th staff at the time, we would not have a zone to argue over today. Do I agree that the current sets are the way to go? No, I do not. Can we go back to the old sets? No we can not. The biggest issue is not the settings, its the map. We've had this same map, with one minor adjustment, for about 1 1/2 years. We need a new map, and then, with a new map, adjust the settings to work efficently with that map. You all talk about noone in this zone thinking of whats best for the zone, but what mike wants is a new map first. This map is stale, and should be removed. But we've had no new maps coming in and or out. Why create, and or adjust setting around a mpa we will just have to change? People do not like change. Every change done will get flame, and praise. You want the settings to change. Give us a map. If you've given us a map, talk to telson and pern. Our "freaky friday" was the greatest thing in developement to happen in this zone in a very long time. But we need your help. Yes leagues are in bad shape. I am doing everything I can, along with Thrawn to pull them back into shape. But its not only the staffs help we'll need, it's the players too. All the vets run around bad mouthing the zone, and what is a newb supposed to do when a vet does nothing but bash the zone? Defend a zone he likes to play, and get called an annoying newb, or go along with the vet? As with any zone, the players and staff must work towards any population increase, and smoothness in the zone. Well time to sit back and let the flaming begin.