NBVegita

You don't want to overload on staff. Statistically, a player plays less if they are a staff member than if they are not. They might be online more, but they do not play. And if you get overloaded with staff, they run out of things to do, then they get bored, then they get lazy, and then you have a zone full of bored lazy spec sitting staffers. Not a good choice imo.

Leagues are very in depth. They're not as easy to run as they seem. At this time it would be rough trying to work out a league as you don't have a steady pop, and thus its a crap shoot if you'd get enough consistently for the league. Not saying its not workable, but there is a lot to consider before the next league is run.

Concerning your country being attacked. As sever said they wouldn't stand a chance in an all out war. So if they can pull off being the poor innocent victim, other countries might just jump to their aid. Just one possibility.

rofl. Bye kyla. I think I was the only male player in ss history not to hit on you. So good luck, and believe me I know where you're coming from!

No worries, you're right, we cannot have the division we used to have between the "javvers" and the "pubbers" If the zone is to survive, there need not be a difference. So what you on a basic scale need to do is find a way to bring leaguers back to pub, and pubbers to leagues. Or just attract a new breed of pubjavhybrid players! MWUHAHA! I mean grapes. Yes. grapes. There is no simple solution, so far I like how everything is moving, but you can't keep doing just this forever, there needs to be a game plan to go further than where we are now. Not saying to make a move now, you need to start getting some of those players back, but just keep them cogs turnin... <3

I would have to say for the most part I agree with kyla. As much as the idea of having interesting random events hosted sounds like a good one, thats just it, it sounds like a good idea. Kinda like the idea for a multiship league. Sounds like an awesome idea, but there have been many many many attemps at it, and there just isn't enough interest for it. Not saying that this time with the sched event would be the same, just saying that is what usually happens. So who knows maybe a random event would do well, but I think the 17th is looking for safe atm, not to be adventurous.

Recent events are rather...surprising...

Hey guys, I haven't had a game of rumble in a loooong !@#$%^&* time. So I don't kno if there are even enough peeps that look at the forums, but how about we get a game of rumble going tonight? say 7pm est time? !@#$%^&* if even 3 of you show up that should be fun. So yeah give it a shot, I just want to shoot people.

Yeah this is rather weird. Yeah...all the topics...all the topics...

NBVegita has nothing lol

here's mine http://www.17thparallel.com/vegita/vegita-big.jpg What a surprise

Grapes?

Yes have a merry christmas everyone and enjoy your holiday no matter what one you celebrate. And be careful for that spiked eggnog, its a killer.

Any news on the situation would be most appreciated

topic !@#$%^&*le changed due to vulgarity. and bran isn't this the same staff you've been trying to rejoin?

I actually have the old jav up in nbvpub, the change he gave it was a much faster recharge to it, and I do believe bullets take more energy. You'll notice that the jav in nbvpub is much harder to use.

I regret to inform you, that due to a lack of squad participation, SBL Season 6 will not be held. I feel it is a real bad state of affairs that you, the players, care so little for one of the most loved leagues in 17th parallel history. As always if you have any questions/comments/complaints please direct them to me.

Ok due to the number of squad turnouts, this has become more a preseason tournament. Starting at 1pm(est):1800(gmt): 1)revolt vs Seraphim will be held in ?go sbl while 2)Velvet vs Covert-Ops will be held in ?go sbl1 Bye: epion immediately after the completion of round 1, round 2 will go as follows: 3)winner of match 1 vs epion in ?go sbl while 4)loser of match 1 vs loser of match 2 in ?go sbl1 Bye: winner of match 2 the finals will be: winner of match 3 vs winner of match 2 in ?go sbl consolation will be: loser of match 3 vs loser of match 4 in ?go sbl1

Yes I know this belongs in the league forum, but not enough people tend to click on it so I will post it here. There is going to be a pre season match for SBL season 6 this sunday, june 5th. For all squads interested you must have at least 4 members signed up on the bot by sunday morning. The matches will be played starting at 1pm est (1800 gmt) and will continue for as many as I can scheduel. Due to the low number of squads I will post Saturday night the temporary scheduel which will be subject to change if more squads become eligable.

Why thank you mav Also the official signup period runs though June 4th, and the first matches will be played on June 5th.

Yes here it is, SBL season 6 signups are finally up and ready to go! All you have to do is type ?go sbl and pm the bot !signup. Yes its that simple. You may find the rules at http://www.17thparallel.com/download.php?p...Fv9df5hyWKIrus+ Any questions please e-mail me at NBVegita@17thparallel.com or Larry@17thparallel.com

True, but its all a matter of the % of voting citizens. Its a shame that more people don't exercise our right to vote.

Sorry browser issues and it double posted.

Democracy obviously works, more or less depending on how you feel about the issue. Yes the majority of people online, or even in your community might be anti bush, but... HE DID GET VOTED IN. lol Basically that means that guess what, the greater half of america still wanted bush in power. And thats democracy at its finest. It just doesn't seem that way to you right now. Just wait til you find one of those pro bush communities, its prolly more like a cult. They'll stone you from the square and hang you from a street sign to warn tresp!@#$%^&*ers.

I concur with brain.