NBVegita

You, like everyone else who is trying to legalize pot has NO VALID ARGUEMENT. It is not a valid arguement to prove that pot is better or worse than alcohol in any way. I have stated this in almost every post, and you all seem to ignore that fact. Pot will never, and I mean never be legalized by just using the fact that it may or may not be better than alcohol. Alcohol = BAD. Smoking = BAD. Pot = BAD. We don't need to legalize another bad mind altering substance. Being it has no positive effect, it does not matter if it is better than any of the others. You could argue a valid point upon making alcohol illegal, but it is no point to make pot legal. You really are lacking logic. Anyone can grow pot, even in a basement. There is not currently a huge alcohol smuggling ring accross the entire country. When it was made illegal, and people tried to make their own, they got terribly sick and or died, along with many other effects including blindness. This was a huge reason why it was made legal again, because of the fact that its better to regulate it than have people killing themselves over terrible tasting booze. Being there is no safe way to make your own alcohol, or at least by the means of most of americans, and anyone with a pot (I mean the one filled with dirt for plants) who can get their hands on seeds can grow pot, great comparison. Awesome comparison. Because obviously getting illegal alcohol is just as simple as getting pot. I mean duh! everyone knows that. I guess I was silly to think otherwise. Thank you oh so much wise one for opening my eyes. I will no longer have to purchase it from a store, because I'll just find that "vodka dealer" or maybe I can find the "Molson dealer" hangin around midtown. Thank you for enlightening me in ways I can save hundreds of dollars every year. It's a shame I didn't hear about this sooner in life...maybe I'd have chosen a different career.

First off you act like democrats don't have just as much corruption as republicans. Just read cnn.com and there is a new story today. There is always corruption in every party no matter what. And of course near election time is time for both sides to dig up as much dirt as possible. He is not blaming Clinton at all. Simply put, looking back on it, it would have been a great idea for Clinton to invade Afghanistan. Notice: Looking back. At the time, as Aileron states, Clinton did the right thing because he would never have gotten the support needed to invade Afghanistan, even with all the signals our government had.

swiss

cheese

Planned events are usually fun.

Plain and simple, Hope is the one thing that no man can ever take away from another. I'm sorry but it is not my duty to help those who don't even want to help themselves. Plain and simple, if you don't even have the motivation to help yourself why should anyone, rich or poor, lend you a hand? Noone makes a child not do his homework. Or not go to class. Or drop out of school. Or not study. And to blame that on society is plain scapegoating.

well put

As stated before why would you buy it from the government and pay tax for weaker stuff, than buy it from a dealer for cheaper? dolphins also have sex for pleasure, we should keep them seperate so they can't "spread disease", they too have std's. And for that matter any STD can be transferred through body fluids, something as small as a tiny cut on your finger. So everyone with an STD or AIDS should either be in an ins!@#$%^&*ution or in a biohazard suit so that they cannot p!@#$%^&* disease. As stated having sex is a NATURAL BODY FUNCTION. Smoking a plant on the ground is not. Plain and simple. It is ingrained in our bodies to have sex. Nothing is ingrained in our bodies to smoke plants. Primal instincts: Survive and mate. You cannot redily compare the effects of alcohol and pot as they effect the body in different ways. And as stated before, you cannot justify making something bad legal by saying that something worse already is. And no matter if you support it or not, Pot is bad. Just like alcohol and smoking. Which of them is the worst will be an arguement for the ages, but ALL OF THEM = BAD FOR YOU! Note: excluding the medicinal purposes of alcohol and marijuana. If it were only a few "think of the children" mommies then the legalization would have passed by now. For every person who wants it legalized there is someone who doesn't. Plain and simple. If not, it would be legal. Yet again basic logic. And as for a social gain, you cannot prove, even by using other countries, that making pot legal would do anything but increase the usage of pot. As stated, man I just love re stating myself, if someone fights to make it legal, there must be evidence that it will benefit our country to do so. Even if it won't harm our country any, which hasn't been proven one way or another, it will never pass As stated, why is the government going to legalize another mind altering drug if it will not have a major positive impact on our country? And I do agree with your statement about it ruining lives. Like alcohol if done casually, and with responsibility it won't ruin your life. But just like alcohol, it will do nothing to help it.

Chunky

There is always hope. No one can take hope away from you. You are the only one who can lose hope.

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shanky

As stated in a previous post, if people can get it so widely while its illegal to bring into the country, do you really think the government is going to make any money? Why pay for the gov tax stuff thats weaker than the stuff you can get off of the street? And the money the gov would have to spend to do things like have ways to detect "high driving" ect would outweigh the small profit from those who actually buy it legally. As stated again in a previous post, the problem isn't proving if pot is or is not better than alcohol and or cigarrettes. Note that they keep putting more and more restrictions on that, until someday not too far off I wouldn't be surprised if its illegal. The point is that you must prove the positive effects would out weigh the negative effects of legalizing it nationally. Just because its not as bad as alcohol and cigarrettes is a poor excuse to make it legal. The government is wise not to nationally induce another mind altering substance. But they do allow it for medicinal purposes, based on the state of course. And note, this part is legalized because the positive aspects of its medicinal uses were proven. Not just because it wasn't as bad as other medicines.

Non-opinion based.

No, what I can't grasp is the unmotivated outlook on life most people gain. I've never once thought that I could not become wealthy, and I came from almost nothing. There are hundreds of opportunities in this country. Look at decades ago when all of the immigrants came with nothing to this country, and now they've made something for them. Why is that? Work ethic. My friend who is asian, grew up with just his mom, his dad left him when he was 5. His mother came from cambodia (not cambodian ethnicity). Each of the children came over one at a time, and payed to bring the next over until the entire family was here. They had no education, there just wasn't the opportunity where they came from. So each and every one of her siblings worked once they got to america to get their GED's. Once they got those, they used the money they made working full time while they went to school, to get college education. Most of them went to small state schools, or even community college. They now all own nice houses, brand new cars, and have a very nice retirement set up. She still works 6 days a week, 12 hour days. She makes very good money, and does not have to work so much but she still does. Don't you feel even a little ashamed of your own country that people who come from even less than we do from other countries are willing to work harder in our own country than we are? It makes me down right sick. Instead of whining about how well other people have it, work. More work, less whine. There is nothing keep a poor man poor, except that poor man himself. And honestly, if I had millions of dollars would I give it to the poor? !@#$%^&* NO. Would I save it so that I can p!@#$%^&* it down to my children so that they can live better lives than I have, and so that they can p!@#$%^&* it down to their children for the same reasons. !@#$%^&* yes. Would I open up a scholarship foundation for hard working children, depending on the amount of money I had, yes I would. But I would never give anything to anyone who didn't work hard for it. And I'm not going to lie, it would take me having a whole lot of money before I'd decide to be that generous. A whole lot.

Make sex illegal? I'm sorry that you have taken a complete illogical, and unfounded approach at attacking this. Comparing reproduction, what is ingrained in every species to survive, is far different from growing a plant that effects you inhibitions and smoking/ingesting it. Sex is a natural body function, smoking or ingesting a mind altering drug is not. As stated in my post above, proving that it is better than alcohol or smoking, which as yoink pointed out will all depend on which study you read, if the study is pro, or anti legalization, does not give grounds to legalize it. It may hold grounds to push for illegalizing smoking and or alcohol, but it does not prove a valid argument as to why it should be legalized.

The instance of me adding the conditional "can" automically induces my statement to be conditional. A conditional, can be both fact and true, and fact but false. Adding the conditional "can" to my statement means that if there is just one case that proves my statement true, the entire statement becomes true. Basic logic. People should really stop trying to misinterperet what I post to assist their issues, as noone has done it effectively yet. My final stand on the issue is far from opinionated. If someone could produce solid evidence that it would be positive to either our society, economy, or the population, I would, although I personally do not agree with the use of it, not fight against the legalization of said drug. There is a fact that it has not been proven to be a positive aspect of our envirionment, beyond medicinal means. For that I do believe, even if you have an opinion or not, that you cannot dispute that. The government does not have the job of proving that said drug is bad, it is the party to whom is trying to legalize it, that must indite facts that prove it has positive worth to be marketed and distributed. On a logical scale, non-partisan of course, if something has no economical, political, militaristic, or socialistic gain for the country, why should something such as this be induced into the country?

Life

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Hey I'm not an advocate of smoking, alcohol or pot. There have been studies, my article has some of the research showing long term issues and dangers with pot. I mean I'm sure everyone knows a pot head. How their whole life revolves around pot, and they get burnt out and they become someone completely different than they used to be. They mope around all day, they're almost incoherent. Maybe I'm touchy on this subject, but one of my best friends from high school graduated 1st in my class. At the end of his senior year he got involved in pot. By his junior year of college, he dropped out of college and ended up kicked out of his house, and working full time at McDonalds, all because sitting around smoking was more important than school. Even when he went to class he would only go if he was high. I know this is an extreme case, and alcohol can be just as bad, but pot is bad too. It has been shown in many studies that if you use pot, you are more likely to try harder drugs, than someone who does not. It also shows that the earlier the start the greater the risk also. Cigarrettes won't do that to you. And a studies have proven that a gl!@#$%^&* of wine a day is actually good for the body. And marijuanna has some good medicinal purposes. But exactly as you stated, pot is bad for you. Smoking is bad for you. Drinking is bad for you. Or at least they all are for the most part. As for cigarrettes, they keep enforcing more and more bans. Alcohol...well as you pointed out they tried that once. The problem is once you tell someone something is ok to do, its hard to be like "just kidding, put down that beer!" Thats why alcohol won't become illegal again, because it's too integral in our society today. But honestly, why do we need another way to !@#$%^&* our selves up? I guess the reason why they are keeping it illegal, is because beyond medicinal puposes, there is nothing constructive about legalizing pot. I mean honestly, if the government legalizes it, they'll make some money off taxing it, but with all the dealers we have while it is illegal, why pay the government taxes on it when everyone can get it without the government knowing anyway? Just because our forefathers let these things that are bad for us become legal, we don't have to do the same. I'm not saying pot would tear apart the country or anything extreme like that, but there just is no good reason to have it legal outside of medicinal purposes.

birds

I would personally take a study published by columbia univeristy over a story written in a mens magazine by someone who is by no means an expert on the subject.

Note the key word...CAN. I did not say "one hit from a joint dissorients you more" I said can. Can [kan; unstressed kuhn] 1. to be able to; have the ability, power, or skill to: I know it goes both ways because as you smoke more you build up a tolerance. Thats why its considered a gateway drug (I can produce a case study for this if you would like). Because you need to keep smoking more and more to get that "high" and then you move to other things because pot just doesn't do it for you. But on to the point that if you smoke a ton, of course one hit or one joint won't effect you like it did when you started. You also build a tolerance to alcohol, but there never hits a point where you cannot get drunk any longer. Or can't get as drunk. It just takes a few more drinks. (I can provide a case study on this also)But this isn't comparing alcoholics and pot addicts. I was refering to the casual user. Which I guess is bad terminology because I have not met a pot user yet who doesn't believe they're any more than a casual user...even if they do it 3 times a day every day. http://www.goaskalice.columbia.edu/0038.html Shows a good point why to keep marijuana illegal. And being I know that everyone selectively reads, this is an article from the health department of columbia univerisy. Their research is accredited world wide. So please if you are going to debate my posts on this forum, actually debate a point instead of trying to pick apart my use of the english language, which in every case so far has not been of proper usage to display my point without displaying it as fact or disregarding other oppinions.

marriage

The fact that one hit from a joint can dissorient you more than one full bottle of beer. Just one point of having it illegal.