Now, personally I think FC Army (Army System Core) is a better system. It is the only one I've personally used, but was long ago in the past when it was still meh. IBProBattle aka ATK Shop I have seen on a lot more forums, so I figured it'd run better. But so far I've found SSCentral down 3x this morning, and our bandwidth exceeded. So as a request, I ask you play with them both, and lemme know what you think. Army Perks Have to join up. No opting out needed, and no having people/guilds attacking inactive members for kills/points. Lot more controllable in the admin features area, and easier to understand for admins. Bank comes included. Can transfer goods, services, money, etc. Anything an admin adds. Has a few extra addable game modes, like Commander, Recruiters, etc. Clans are included too. Different Races, and Different Perks per Race Is all sql based/added files based. Only like 4 file edits needed, and keeps them listed in admin section. Good for forum upgrades. http://www.armysystem.com Army Cons Have yet to see any personally. I actually might play this one, cause the other feels too meh to me. IBProBattle Perks Lot of people already have begun playing it. VERY Configurable. IBProBattle Cons Seems to slow some things down. Hardcoded into forum, so going to be hard to do upgrades without screwing it up. Hard to understand and configure without a good amount of knowledge/playing around. So many possibilities, but so hard to do. Lemme know your opinions.