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Put in your ear plugs, put on your eyeshades, you know where to put the cork

Nah, I got one of them, too. http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b139/KevinJRussell/Intenet.jpg But that's nerdy. Who cares about winning the internet? I just care about being more popular than you. Although, I guess, I wouldn't be so popular if it weren't for my awesomeness that allowed me to win the internet.

Lol. I don't see YOUR certificate.

So, I was cleaning up around the basement(my room) and throwing away some old papers when I found this. Good thing there haven't been any compe!@#$%^&*ors for the !@#$%^&*le, I would've hated to have to go and find this thing. Oh well, I know where it is now. I'm gonna go put this back on the wall where it belongs, but I thought you guys might want to gaze at it for a bit. http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b139/KevinJRussell/MPPCertificate.png

You can't even spell JDS right

I'll just list the games that I spend the most time on, in order: #1 Continuum #2 Super Smash Brothers Melee #3 Pokemon #4 Morrowind It's kinda hard to say past that. As for just recently, I've been playing Doom and some of the SNES RPGs I never played.

I just wanted to say that the "Last Post Info" looked like this: Today, 09:07 PM In: Just got... By: Cancer+

It's not overrated. If it weren't for SSC there wouldn't be an SS anymore. Players wouldn't play if there was no central community.

Reminds me of when people used to always release PC games like that... you know, like Doom did. Speaking of which, I'm about to go play some Doom co-op.

Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike is really the only SF that even pretends to be balanced, so I'll go with that one. Under that it would be Alpha 3... and the original MvC is kind of fun, it's just incredibly broken. The Guilty Gear series is the best sprite fighting series out, though.

I would say I'm interested in this as far as seeing other people use it. It seems like it would be easy to make bots that way. But you say it would be good for "(bot/client/biller/another game)"... in that case, I have to wonder, is C# really the best choice for that?

neither have i JDS has admitted to spamming, so don't even try debating that one.

How appropriate that a user named "laughing_cow_penis" was in the same zone

I'm not saying that only zone chats should get this privilege. I'm saying people who are spamming ANY chat repeatedly, even after being told to stop, should have action taken against them. So it has nothing to do with zone chats or non-zone chats. As for your second point, I agree with you as far as wanting "a game accessible to everyone". Where you misstep is when you seem to think racists don't count as everyone. I don't want a game that is accessible to everyone that passes your "people test", I want EVERYONE, even the racists. That's freedom of speech. You should actually be SUPPORTING me, because as it stands, there doesn't seem to be any way to stop people from running in chats and spamming "!@#$%^&*" over and over. Chats are one thing that give different people places to go and not be bothered. What I'm talking about is PROTECTING that. I'm sure you'd like a place to go on SubSpace where people can't say !@#$%^&*, and I don't think you'd be very happy if you had to leave one of your chats because people were spamming it. That's why we need some way to protect against that. We seem to agree on some level, at least. Of course, we can't have netops tied up trying to moderate every chat in SubSpace, but spamming is easily identifiable, and easily dealt with, and won't take much time at all. Since this is something that would be restricted to repeat offenders who are switching aliases specifically to avoid ignore lists, it's not something that innocent people are going to get pinned with, and it's not something that can really be abused and used as an excuse to ban innocent people. If you dislike the racist spammers on Penis, Hakaku, then why are you against stopping them? Also, wtf did you mean by this line? "I think the irony of the fact that you want to open your chat to the public, but won't, is funny"

Let me see if I can address all the issues here. It could've all been different people. They weren't logged into my zone(they logged into 17th Parallel, for reference), so I couldn't exactly run an alias check on them, or even check their IPs. But this is just ONE occurence. I'm sure you guys realize that these aliases weren't the players' normal aliases, but ones they had switched to, to avoid ignores. In past(and future) occurences, the names were different yet again. I can see how, given the one log I posted, you wouldn't know for absolutely sure that they were trying to avoid ignores, but I think it's pretty obvious, and I can always provide more logs, if you guys want. I can !@#$%^&*ure you that everyone involved has been asked to stop spamming, multiple times. I can show you logs of that, too. There haven't been local bans because I don't know how to ban a player who's not in your zone. Not on subgame, anyway. They were in 17th, like I said. The first thing I did was try to ban them, and once that didn't work, I went to 17th to try to talk to a staff member there, to see if they'd silence/ban the user. That's worked in the past for me. But there's rarely anyone in 17th, and there weren't any staff when I went to ask. You're right, Polix, the zone IS set up to allow spammers, or at least allowing him to spam. I don't have timestamps, but there weren't any breaks in messages. Maybe once I get to talk to a 17th op, that will change, but at the moment, there's nothing I can do. So even though I didn't ban them locally, I DID exhaust my options. And we all know a local ban wouldn't deter them at all. So they switched names to avoid ignore, were asked to stop spamming, and I did everything I could to stop them myself. I think that fits the rules. And even if it doesn't... this is the next step. I can't do anything else myself, so the only possibility is to talk to the netops. It's even possible the rules on this need to be re-evaluated. I mean, should one person have the power to make one chat unusable? You can say, "Just change the chat name," but that doesn't work if you want the chat to be open to the public. You'd have to closely guard the chat name, and you wouldn't be able to tell everyone you wanted. This is especially bad for zones who want their chat to be known to everyone. But even outside of zone chats, we all know that SS is a community game... and chats help create communities, or just, you know, give them places to chat. They shouldn't be allowed to be ruined by spammers. Now, I could think of dozens of ways to solve this problem by making simple modifications to the client, whether by allowing for chat owners or by adding an option to block chat messages when there are multiples, or ignore.txt automatically blocking messages by all aliases of any names listed... but all of those options lie outside of our power. So here's a possible solution: First offense: Warning by zone staff in the zone offense took place in, or by netop Second offense: Local ban(like an hour) in the zone the offense took place in, placed by zone staff or netop Third offense: One day netban Fourth offense: One week netban Fifth offense: One month netban So you get the idea. The only way they can really get !@#$%^&*ed up is if they ignore staff multiple times. This isn't something that is going to affect innocent players minding their own business, but I think it would effectively solve my problem and any other people's problem with spammers.

There's no such thing as "invite-only" chats in SubSpace. The chat isn't private. It's been advertised for in basically every SSC zone and on SSForum. But this isn't a matter of public or private chats - it's a matter of rules being violated. Also, there IS a zone in question, and I shouldn't have to mention any local bans. Using a 3rd party program to spam with is a bannable offense whether it's in a zone's public chat or in a private chat. Under what you've said, were he harr!@#$%^&*ing me via PM, there would be no question... but because he's harr!@#$%^&*ing me in a chat, which is public and affects many people other than me, it's no longer a bannable offense? That doesn't make the least bit of sense.

Now, I'm not the best programmer around, nor am I incredibly experienced with C#, but I think I can safely say that anything you'd be programming for ASSS would be simple enough that you wouldn't have to learn anything that could really be described as "cold hard C". Even with my extremely limited programming experience, I was able to write modules in Python, even though I had absolutely no exposure to the language before looking at the Python tutorial on the ASSS wiki. I could do this because ASSS is simple, and since you're dealing mainly with ASSS functions anyway, you don't have to be experienced with the language. Besides, I'm willing to bet the C# you've learned is far more complex than the simple C used to write ASSS.

Last time I checked, Both name-changing to avoid ignore with the intent of cross-zone spamming "Cross zone Spamming - Following a local zone ban, repeatedly switching names to avoid ?ignore, then spamming or har!@#$%^&*ing zone staff with cross-zone messages, after a warning to stop. Maximum 7 day net ban for first offence." and using third party programs "Cheating - Performing any action that an unmodified client is incapable of performing. Developing, distributing, or promoting cheat software. Minimal 90 day net ban for first offence." were offenses punishable by netbans.

This topic is gay. Quit being a fanboy about your console, Incomplete. YOU are one of the angry teenagers. The rest of us are happy playing our consoles or our PC, whichever it might be.

Attached is a log of one of these events. I don't think you need me to point out who I'm talking about. Since I'm not a netop, I can't be sure that any of these people are the same people, so I'm just making an educated guess.spam.log

hahahahahahaha Please, tell me. What people are happy with it? You mean when you lost at least 75% of your population? Those are the results that speak for themselves? ROFL

liero and gunster are like the two things soldat could've been

Man, I tried it, but it was like a !@#$%^&*ty version of Liero. Gunster was so much cooler....

A simple fact about HS, and any MMORPG, is that they reward time, and don't reward skill. Despite that, there are millions upon millions of MMORPG players.