madhaha

India and China have both used abortion (and sterilisation) for birth control. Both have managed to dramatically cut their population growth rate (in some areas of rural China, they've even found that they have cut the growth rate too much). America cannot simply abstain from sex. Sex is a major industry in America. Sex is also a major part of American culture and free sex is needed to maintain the illusion of freewill that America is based on. To suddenly say "Hey folks, don't have sex and people won't get accidental pregnancies!" won't work. Besides, people often change their minds during pregnancy. India is doing everything it can. Remember that India is not a rich country. It is on the verge of a major, possibly nuclear, conflict, has an incredibly dense population and its infrastructure has actually declined since the days of British conlonisation. Its government providides abortions and sterilisations for free whenever it can. Remember this is a country with water supply difficulties and little refrigiration. Performing abortions is not exactly easy. Moving on to the second point, I was stating how China has an equal disregard for human rights as the US, if not more so. Manus said :"NOT EVEN CHINA DOES THAT, OMG WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE!" but the truth is that the Chinese equally have no qualms about killing children. To bring Iraq into the matter is irrelevant (strange how no-one mentions Afghanistan now isn't it?).

Don't listen to paine C2S = Client to server. From the looks of your trace it seems like its some routers a long way down the line: nothing to do with Your computer. I'm under the impression that your ISP should be able to sort it out, maybe you should try ringing tech support again. Alternatively, just wait for it to sort itself out.

Remember some zones won't let you have your banner till you get x number of points.

Opal is perhaps the only thing ever to be created by vile in the history of the universe that I like.

Yes.

Feef: American culture relies on the illusion of freedom. Abstaination from sex will obviously not become mainstream for many years to come, if only due to cultural inertia. America is far from "overpopulated", merely extremely badly managed and excessive. Size is a major status symbol in America. Big food is good! Big cars are good! Big roads are good! Big, wide housing and sprawling development is good! America can support at least triple its current population if it adopted more effecient practises. At the end of the day, abortion in America is not significant population control, nor is population control currently needed. This is not the case for other countries.

But America already lives in fear... Terrorists seek publicity, support and psychological victory. Politicians seek blind terror.

You forget that harsh enforcement of China's one child policy has lead to many non-consensual abortions (regardless of how long the term of pregnancy has been). Also note that while they do not reserve the legal right to kill children, they didn't have the legal right to send tanks into Tiananmen. So what?

Please keep this thread open so we can keep the rest of the forum clear for serious discussion. This thread will never be off topic. It never HAD a topic. Its just another pro/anti america/military rant. *lays a wreath to those who are supposedly being remembered by this thread* *adds this thread to his ignore list*

*looks at the stupid poll* Where "we" = America it seems. Define army please. Armed forces are a method of control. For there to be stability, I think an armed force is requisite. Anyone care to exapand? While armed forces are not inevitable, they tend to be the most direct method of control and as such, countries without significant armed forces will usually fall to those that do. WTF does this poll have to do with Armistice day?

Wow, what happened, they finally promote you or something?

You said that about the old weasel you fraud. Gentleman, you're playing a game with a stacked deck. Vile can claim whatever he likes and unless he publishes all the various subarena settings you'll just have to believe him and/or other sysops. Personally I don't give a -*BAD WORD*-. The improved jav with the better thrust was more fun but if things have been reverted to the old jav at least people could stop whining. YOU HEAR ME! STOP WHINING! And Vile can stop whining about the whining and looking smug. Prick --madhaha whining about the whining whiners.

Can you remove the shadow or whatever its called from general please?

Are you not contradicting yourself? You acknowledge there is a case for abortion in cases of rape etc. Also I'm sure you're aware that most forms of contraception are not 100% successful and pregnancy can go unnoticed for several weeks. Now you say its a law to protect stupid people. Or what are you saying?

OFF TOPIC!

Akai... Its still in general. WTF?

Why? Subspace is a game of many zones. Some will use the system, some won't. I don't see how that would hurt our playerbase...

-*BAD WORD*-. I normally have a lunar calander program running in my systray. Today it just went red and I was about to spread the news when I came accross this article.

It does the same damage. This has changed recently in pub but only for other ships.

No! I refuse to be spammed by people outside the zone!

Anyone in europe tried it out? Is it stable yet and are the servers holding out? Worth the subscription fee?

Rethink the map and the settings and try again.

Has Vile the pompus FINALLY sorted out the duel settings yet? I don't mean just the jav.

Offtopic: There have been spy satellites capable of reading number plates for over a decade. Your house would be easy to spot in the right weather conditions.

Correction: its possible but only by changing the way the game mechanics currently work. Would be interesting to see how players respond.