Stylez

For one I'm trying to not add rocks in the map, second I want a big empty center, it'll have a score graphic in the middle of it, but you can fly through it. when you have 20-30+ people on the map all warping near each other, it wont look as empty as you think it does.... Plus, take all the emptyness of the original pub map, mine doesn't even half as much empty space as it does, so I'm trying to make up for it somehow... Anyways, if others say they want rocks, I'll add them I guess, but for now, most like it empty so I'm keeping it empty... And trsut me the long route in the left base will get used if the person cant get in the short way... Each base has a long route, there both just about the same amount of length to the goal... Actually if I'm not mistaken, the right bases other side route is actually the one that is a bit longer then the left bases... Thats why they make waiting lines at theme parks zig zag like, to make it seem shorter then it actually is... Joker

Okay heres my idea in a nuts!@#$%^&*... I want pub leagues in 17th, but fun for both noobs and vets alike... This map will promote that... It's small, but plenty big enough for 17th... 15 people per team. People will actually learn how to base, and people can camp in bases now instead of having like one person inside base while the rest are outside somewhere mindlessly running around... Sever I like your idea about making more space but I put that many flags there for a purpose, 1 flag doesn't look as tempting to go all the way to the four corners to get as say 5 would... I also want to have a pretty hard map to get around in, I don't care if the tunnels are narrow, if you play it enough then you'll get use to it... but it makes people work at it more then say giving them a handicap tunnel... I mean would you like to play a rpg (role playing game) that you can beat in a hour or takes you a month? Plus it'll only take you so long to get from one side to the other, I want it sort of difficult to get through the bases... My ship settings I find perfect for 17th, a lil bit of the new mixed with my version of a few ships, noob and vet freindly, but I made some changes to a few of them, which will make them a more user freindly ship, while at the same time giving the people a chance to become skillful at them... Well I'm tired, Peace, Joker

LMAO, how doesnt it feel like a pub map? Its made from a god !@#$%^&* pub man geez, so picky... Pointless places? name one... I tried my best to take out "pointless places"... It did take me awhile... I hate critics... Joker P.S. Wormholes will give the noobs something to play with, plus its a good trick to use to escape...

I'll see what I can do... Joker

I want everyone here to try out my map for public... Everyone whos played on it have loved it, so far... I'm still making changes upon peoples requests... so play it for a lil while and tell me what you think ?go jokerbeta I think this map will not only save 17th Parallel but will also bring a pub league like atmosphere into it.... No more going half a mile to get to a base , and tons of lil camping spots... Plus flags are now in the middle of the arena.., Anyways please give it a try and tell me what you think... I think you'll be very impressed with it, *gulp* I hope Peace, Joker

Becuase the Army is saying their going to arrest every cyber punk who breaks the law... Abunch of crock to scare people... Joker

Try my map out... atleast for a week, I think people will love it... ?go jokermap2 Joker

lol the army is so gay... read this and you'll see why http://www.bluesnews.com/cgi-bin/board.pl?...&threadid=54056 Joker

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I know I'm late on this, but... There were 2 people on CO that was over lag limit and we didnt get a 10 minute hold, the ref said we had 3 minutes to find someone. So we had to play whoever we had which wasnt good... Just my 2 cents... Joker

Why are we doing leagues like sblball, dodgeball, and speedball? Thats not are zone, goto hockey zone and join a squad there or tw's... keep 17th with what it was made and designed for. Stop bringing in other zones leagues into ares, shows no originality... Joker

Ah Epion, the squad that plays the same 4-6 people every game and the rest are just cheerleaders along for the win....

Actually I was thinkin bout puting some rocks in the middle, we'll see. My plans are, everyone spawn in safe in the south, ball and greens will spawn in the middle circle area. I like north base, certainly since its smaller, it give people somewhere else to go and protect. But if that doesnt work I was thinkin bout making some movable flags around the arena and people will have to goto either west or east bases and keep them there to protect them, like starwars realm or w/e. Give me feedback. Joker

Just wondering when and what league is going to be next for 17th? P.S. put my map "jokermap2" put up in pub for a week Joker

http://www.bit-tech.net/images/article/136/far_clear.jpg Thats what I'm talkin aboot, I could careless aboot it being used for the ps2, but that you can hot wire it into your pc so your case has a mini monitor inside it. Joker

Thought I share this with everyone, this looks cool... Cool Tech

Um, I don't really look at these forums anymore, but um just looking at your last two topics, well um.... You are either a fukking moron or you are actually insane. I dont know if your preaching or just acting stoopid, either way, try not to understand the human psychi to much. You need to go out more, just from your pic you look like powder (from the movie). Go out get some sun, breathe in deep, some fresh air will do you good. You preach in the one topic about everyone wasting their lives, but you come to a gaming fourm to lecture people on not wasting their lives by showing them your wasting yours by typing novels to people who really don't care. If you plan to help people "in your own way", try to speak (type) more in lamens term a little more. Certainly to a crowd of people who are mostly in the age groups of 8-25. You need a girlfriend really bad dude, lose your virginaty already!! It'll help you coop with life. Anyways I'm just here to medal in your affairs. I shall bid you ado... Farewell, Joker

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17th Parallel Public League Created By: Joker0430/420 "a.k.a. Stylez" -General Idea- The basis behind this event will be "of course" the Veitnam War. It will be made up of two frequency's (Veitcongs/USA>. Those two freq's will then be split up futher into two more teams, thus having a total of 4 groups all together. Each group will be either basing or balling during their tournament. (Quick reference) Basing: North and South bases are what I like to call the Headquaters for both teams and the flaqs within them are radar becons that give points (currency) for how ever long you can keep up contact with them. Balling: Most popular of 17th Parallel is the ball game. This is what I would call Getting Supplies. What I mean by that is simply getting the ball "supplies" to your supplies station "east or west base" and in return you earn points (currency). So the general idea of it all will be to earn as many points as possible, the freq with the most points at the end of the tournament will be the victors. Also the kill/death ratio's will also have a part to play in this. My main goal here is not only to rejuvenate the population of the zone but also bring a meaning to it. If we're going to call it The 17th Parallel, lets try and actually keep to the plot of the original theme. -Rules- 1) The 17th parallel league will be made up of two freq's "squads", those two freq's "squads" will have two factions. One faction will either choose to ball or base for the entire tournament for their freq, unless that player is swapped out or switched around , this will be handled by the event ref, please notify him/her if you do want a player switched around. 2> The middle area of the arena is the "kill zone or jungle", anyone can be killed there by whomever would want to kill you. So be careful... 3) If you are picked to be either a baser or baller you have to keep to that position. ex. If you're picked to be a baser you have to stick to only basing, you may not enter the east or west bases at anytime during the match, if you are caught doing just that, your freq will be pentalized for it. Same goes for the ballers. The only exception to this rule is of course killing someone that is in the kill zone. 4> You may not enter into the safety zones with the ball on you, if you are caught doing this your freq will be pentalized for it. Also if your a baser and you come into possesion of the ball, you most get rid of it right away, if you are caught carrying it around and you are a baser, your freq "you guessed it" will be pentalized for it. 5> Each team may only have a minimum of up to 10 players and a maximum of up to 20 players. There has to be atleast 5 or more people per event . It doesn't matter if there are 5 people on one freq that base only and 15 that ball, it is up to that freq "squad" to choose how they want to set their teams up. 6> There will only be a max limit of up to 5 swap outs during the entire match. If there is any need for more, the captain/co-captain of that freq "squad" will have to message the event ref and explain why they need to swap a player and it is then up to the event ref to decide if it is ok to do so. 7> If there is any signs of favortism by the refs of the event then that team will have to message a Mod or Sysop that is around and ask to have that event ref swapped out. 8> If there is any signs of someone cheating or just being plain out re-*BAD WORD*-ed, the event refs and powers to be will take care of them. 9> Players put into the arena will have to move to their starting points (they are placed on the map, you'll see them if you look) immediatly. If you are seen killing someone more then once before the match starts or wandering off somewhere other then your starting point, you will be removed from the game and wont be able to play, no questions asked. 10> Each team will have to atleast have one of each ship being used throught the entire tournament. So it doesn't matter if there are thirteen javs and only one of each of the seven different ships being used as long as your freq has all eight ships being used. 11> A set time limit will be given for each match, there will be two matches played and the best freq out of the two matches will be the victors. 12> More of an update then a rule. Just remember to look for network tunnels to use for quick access into a base. end ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Thats a idea i've been thinkin up for awhile, it'll be different from any other zones leagues and it'll help 17th out by making more people recruit lots of people thus makin the zone bigger. I've got a map made for it, if 17th staff would put it up for me, i'll tell you all later what arena it is in, but until then, tell me what you think of the concept... Thanks, Stylez

It really depends on what event your playing... Pub some may be more effecient at... Rumble, javwar, and so on... But to me, best player of all time would have to be.... FLOo He's the one that taught me, and if I can become one of the legendary (snickers to himself) javers in 17th, then anyone can... Thats my 2 cents... Joker0430

Whats funny to me is that the zone is called 17th parallel which was based upon the veitnam war. But we think of it as what can we do to make ships better not what we can do to simulate vechiles/jets/helicoptors/etc... that were used during the war. Why not name the zone "Subspace zone #17" that would fit more for us... Just my two cents on this pointless topic. Joker0430 P.S. Why even bother arguing with staff, they are re-*BAD WORD*-ed and never listen anyways too you, reminds me of the U.S. goverment.

Wow, when i posted my -*BAD WORD*-o post I only seemed to of gotten like 9 post and shay seems to have what 18 (including this one and the other one). Maybe I should grow some T&A.... you think? But yea I did delete subspace from my computer, I don't have my dsl anymore at my house and I only come online when I'm at school. I will oneday come back, as soon as I get my dad paid off. Either I'm at work or school or going out with some of my boys. Either way me and Ashley are just freinds now and I hope to stay that way with her, but yea we were an internet b/f g/f couple. Which I will never do again, not becuase of her, but becuase the fact that you can't really know somebody unless you can be around that person. All-in-all shay's a awsome girl and a good freind and I still feel bad how I ended things with her and for that I am sorry. Once I do return oneday I will explain better, but for now lets just let this topic rest. Peace, Joker0430

Huh?? I do recall you using this ship a many of times when you was Geedion. Remember the whole Joker0430 and pernille versus you in north base with that ship. Man I'm bored, I'm at school right now and have nothing better to do but come to this forum and read a crap load of pointless post and post the most re-*BAD WORD*-ed things aboot them. . . .... .. . ... Why you ask? Becuase I'm motha f$#%ing (school edit) Joker0430 (joker420, stylez, thunn, sticky fingaz, ummmm.... lots others too) and I hate school, so I disregard what the teacher says by ignoring them and reading what you have to say. Ask yourself, learn school stuff or learn pointless rants aboot subspace, ask yourself whats important too you... peace, Joker0430

Well net why don't you use your leet haxor knowledge and write a code for me to enlarge my member, becuase we all know how well equipped you are. But for your info, the matrix has been kind to me, for they gave me a huge one. Peace, Stylez