I had been sending you my troops by the thousands mainting my pop around 800-1500 until I got bored with it and went on an inactive raping spree with the 600 turns I had saved up and made like 250m, bumping me up to ~11th. Next day I logged on at a time when no one ( I thought) was logged on, made another 100m or 2, boosted up to ~8th where I kept being bumped between 7th and 9th (Then some lucky !@#$%^&* hit me when I had ~70m, SECONDS before I clicked buy in the armory -_-) then tonight I emptied my bank and bought just enough crap to boost me to fourth, but then I got bumped down to fifth and stayed there ^^ I think in all I gave you around 200 thors, several hundred s+s's, and idk how many antiwarps and crap, along with arounddd maybe 5-6k troops =D I've played a version much like this on another forum, and it sucks because the UP is only 25 per 24 hours there, and since I was in third, and battles to get money to go up in ranks was so costly troop wise, my army had fallen from ~3000 to 800 before I finally just gave up as I had less troops than I had items and it was pointless to continue as I was losing around 40-50 troops each attack run -_- So the UP of this game is a big plus.. And the resets each month are too. Permanent games always end up being a stagnant fight between the top 10 and money becomes so plentiful that resources end up being used faster than they can be restored.