Stability can only half come from its members, and if people choose to come and go then its not the squads fault, its the players who do it too the squad. Take a look at Elemental, they have had a massive drain on players leaving em yet they still carry on. You cant fix a problem if its on the players leaving, you just must recruit more, yet with the limited population we have, its alot harder to do that than say Trench War squads who can refill ranks like their is no tommorow. And nah I dont think publeague is a joke, its just giving other squads who dont want to be fully focused around jav 24/7 a chance to play something else in a different light. You might just find that people enjoy playing these sorts of games more than plain killing, isnt that what Your map is about Zion? Its the same as multiship, again another chance and another league for squads who dont fully concentrate on the javelin. You must offer variety in a zone for it to be successful in its leagues in my belief, no matter what anyone says. Seen it in Infantry, -*BAD WORD*- thats what they do in Trench and look how high sprung and popular their leagues are! Yes the Twdd is most popular but right behind that is the Twjd and the Twbd, both which people seem to enjoy more and whine less at each other. 17th might of survived on its jav leagues long ago but for it to excel to gain more people and become a better zone no I dont think it can stay on just javs, and these trial leagues are giving us a chance to experiment, have a bit of fun, and play something a lil different from the normal day leagues of 17th. -Röach