DaKillaRoach

People deleting others posts now? I didnt see it, but was it something that people would agree on and the 'important' people of the zone wouldnt like?

naed, I wouldnt say you hvave the experiance, knowledge or eyesight to state what you said here about staff. I'll let you ponder on it while the rest of us know the truth. And Rifle speaks alot of truth in his post, as long as we have people like him running the zone we will get somewhere. Now to just remove Vile

lol naed, remember xenocide alliance forum?

Thats cause you dont understand kill macros naed

You want to make it a fast paced high kill zone? Wasnt the whole point of 17th to be a ball/flagging game with moderate kills and high skill. Instead you have achieved your dream of high kills, but at what cost? Hey make it more high kills and turn it to one hit zone instead? This is one of the reasons why we should go back to the old format of balling/flagging system.

Doesnt this happen anyway? or seems so to me O.o' And you cant doubt Rice's theory. He might suck in everyship around but at least he has confidence in himself!

PS2 with lots of Hack n' Slash Games ^_^ Some DVD's, CD's, etc. And generalised other crap

That would be more my accent coming through than my spelling in particular swift.

I'm proud of having posted lots and lots of useful posts. Some of them are spam but not as much as Ricebowls

w00t! 400 posts Shame the next time I post it will be more than 400 posts so it seems pointless to post this thread so i'll add + to the !@#$%^&*al so it makes sense

Yeah I find it amusing also but thats the way I see things, e all see things different, and well I see them in a clearer light than most I believe. Afterall ive seen this happen in Infantry to, same old stories Oh well, it dont matter. Things happen in 17th I have no control of, and well truthfully I couldnt care less anymore. I only wish to play and host the events I can for the people to like this zone for what it was or is now, however limited the skill level has become.

Note -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -*BAD WORD*- cant be hosted by ER's at the moment cause Motherbot is dead at the moment and as far as I know we have 4 ER's around. ER>Kentai is... wel he is a newb. Sorry but he is f-ing usless lol ER>bowl i never see online ER>naedhaha hosts alot of things and is very active when he can get on the net and I have been hosting a little, but my stupidly big lag problem doesnt enable me to host as much as I like, but I do host some smaller events like speedball and race at the moment

Its only bad if a newbie is using it

Liez

I just see what I read off other peoples comments in staff, and well generally its not to my liking. Maybe the gap is closing, but I dont see that somehow, I still do petty talk to those I know of upper staff but from the response and at!@#$%^&*ude of many of them, have no need to delve any further into conversations or friendly group chat about the latest sexual thing staff wishes to talk about. And you say I wouldnt get myself sacked for posting my comments on staff, not what Ive been told, so i'm keeping my mouth shut After all, my comments dont seem to affect anything which happens in this zone so why should I waste my breath ^_^

You would!

Thats just cheating 000!

Oh... Can it? PWEASE!

What DID you get fired for 000?

Hmm, see the problem with this is I dont think it will encourage those of lower staff to put in any input and upper staff wont complain cause everything runs in their favour. I aint putting anything on this cause it would be like putting my ER position on the line. Why you think I've shut up mainly about staff and people in staff? Cause Ive had 'the talk' to keep my mouth shut up about it, whoops, theres something already said. Better keep quiet

Get rid of those horrible fancy button things on the guns and stuff, whoever made them deserves to be shot! Change the wall tile things to the last ones we had. Not the grey ones, we had a futuristic one between the grey one and the blue one, but it was only on for a few days, prehaps only a friday? Dunno, cant remember, but they looked the best. The blue ones are too dark for high res's and generally offputting to see.

Theres a difference between talking and friendly talk. Trust me, he's one of my best mates, I know him irl, -*BAD WORD*- i'm in his form O.o' god he dont leave me alone >.

Ah the big old topic ey? And once again I feel obliged to join Maka's side because I support his view on 17th. I have always beena fan of the old 17th, it is what made me stay on continuum, it drew me in, yet every day I see it falling apart a little by a little but I say nothing, why should I? It is a concern that my home zone is dieing but if I was to be truthfully honest with you people I dont see the staff as being one intergrated group. Theres a split, upper and lower which yes there should be to a degree, but its like a canyon, or in my views. And you know why that split is? Lack of acknolodgement. Do you know exactly how the upper staff people treat the mods and ER's like crap? well me and some other ER's, prehaps even a mod or two could vouch for that. The fact is, staff will ALWAYS be the main argument of the zone becuase staff affects the zone. Every sacking, every promotion, every change to the zone is decided by those of upper staff, for worse or better, although I see it as worse for the majority. You think of all the people we have lost, loyal friends and people we got on with, think of everyone we have gained... I need to say no more on that one. Yes we need newbies more than we need veterans, their should be a 2:1 average at least, thatswhat makes the veterans, the pros, the experianced seperated. The select few who have stayed in the zone and kept playing even through the changes. We have lost alot of good people, we have gained a few also, overall the zone is growing, prehaps for the better, in my eyes it never will be like it was, it never will be the zone that this newbie joined for some fun after Infantry went p2p. But whatever happens I dam well plan to stick around if I can help it, because this is MY home zone, its alot of others, and we must deal and accept these changes with gritted teeth and a warm coming because a simple change here and there shouldnt make us give up! I know I have left before, because of Staff, and now being in Staff I STILL see the problem,s I STILL see everything which could be corrected, the people which should be sacked, the places where we need good staffers, but unfortunatly that will never happen, which is why me, naedhaha and others split themselves from the upperstaff. We dont talk as much, we acknoldge their precense, and yes Ive ignored a few for their inability to understand and accept the ways of other people, and thats the sort of people we have in 17th, but this is 17th, thats how people are. We have some of the most headstrong, ignorant and arrogant -*BAD WORD*-s here, which still makes us unique for our decision to change for what we see as better for everyone! It wont always work but we keep trying. The problems will always remain, upperstaff will keep like they always are (which I do not wish to delve deeply into for certain reasons), lower staff will always be your loyal players who want to help the players get some interesting things in this game, and the players will always complain and not understand, because most of our vets have been or are staff, and the rest are newbies or not interested in 17th enough. That is how it stands in my views, the split between upper and lowerwill always remain, the zone will keep changing no matter what is said, and people will carry on complaining and moaning. THAT IS CONTINUUM! Just think about it -Röach

Well he's not a freak like you who plays less than a year and makes 378 posts. He has a live, you don't. And if Staff hires YOU, then everyone can make it into staff. 2 and a half years actually and I made it into staff because I have experiance and the want to help the zone. Think about something before you say it, and its liFe not live. Theres a f there. Get your grammer right also

5 years play and 1 post. Good going ^_^