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Bush is a business man above all else including national security. The oil and drugs trade are very important to America. Was the Taliban a threat? Were they any more of a threat that Iran, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia were at that time... where do we KNOW most of the actual terrorists came from? But the Taliban were killing the opium trade... so Bush as a business man saw the detrimental effect to the drugs business and the convenient oppurtunity 9/11 offered. 5 years on what do you think has happened to the Middle East? How many terrorists are there now? How has the number of attacks increased? How do you think the flow of money into Al Queda has changed over recent years? Who's side is Bush on and does he know what he's doing?

You may talk about extremists but the amount of extremists in a society is just an indication of how extreme the society on average is. There isn't a huge gap between non-violent Muslims and those who fly planes into buildings with nothing in between. There is plenty in-between and i'm willing to bet the average Muslim isn't far from the ones we see in the streets burning buildings. How many people have been killed in riots? How many of them were just people who were in the wrong place at the wrong time? Try going to one of these "riots" and probably just being the only white man in the crowd will earn you the death penalty from hundreds of rioters. These people live in the 12th century, we should ignore them and not interfere in their development. Above all though we should be free to post any image about any issue within our current society. Islam earned the reputation as being a hostile religion which produces 90% of worlds terrorists. They are at war with everyone around them... including themselves. When we invite them too our countries they run people over in their SUV's in vengeance for the war (recent story in the USA) and they blow up trains and busses in London (July attacks by BRITISH Muslims). Having said all this, if i see a Muslim in the street or i go drinking with a Muslim (they don't drink, i do) i show nothing but friendship and interest in them. But lets be clear about the how extreme our average Muslim is.

Since the war? As far as i know Iraq has the second largest oil field in the world, America wants to get that oil flowing as soon as possible. As for Venezuela, well we don't have a reason to invade that country since we can't link them to terrorism in America very easily. I hope we all know about the Taliban's efforts to eliminate all drug production in Afghanistan and the subsequent invasion by America for "terrorist reasons" in a back-lash for 9/11 to satisfy the temporarily vengeful hearts of Americans. Convenient indeed; Since the invasion drug production has hit the roof once again. http://opioids.com/afghanistan/ http://opioids.com/afghanistan/opium.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4782930.stm I say good on them. Paranoia is no excuse to interfere with and threaten another country.

Part of a political agenda resulting in the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq to secure America the two things America loves to buy: Drugs and Oil.

Chuck Norris drew the Mohammed cartoons just so he'd have a steady stream of terrorists to kill. The USA hasn't invaded Iran yet because Chuck Norris was recently deployed to blow up Iran's Nuclear Operations. Chuck Norris doesn't need to win an oscar, he makes his own trophies out of the bones of his enemies.

*Eats a donut at a cafeteria somewhere in Tennessee* *Chuck Norris smashes through the window on a seemingly invisible rope in full commando gear* "You won't look like me if you eat those fat-filled sugar-coated bread products!" *Chuck Norris roundhouse kicks me in the stomach and i throw up all over his commando gear* "If that doesn't wash out i'm coming back to finish you off fat-boy" "But i weigh less than you do Chuck..." "You will after i chop you in half" "Ok sorry Chuck Norris, i love your movies" *A remote control monster truck flies through the wall and Chuck gets in to make his exit* -2 weeks later- *Watching Judge Judy on the telly* *A ninja star suddenly flies out of the screen and into my eye* *I die in seconds, my eyeball cut in half* *Chuck climbs out of the television* "It didn't wash punk" *Chuck throws his uranium tipped nunchakus up the chimney and kills Santa*

I think we should have left Iraq alone because they were not threat to us. They weren't even a threat to Israel. So why did we invade? Because Saddam is a dictator? Well there are many other countries ruled by dictators in the world. Because Saddam killed some of his people? Well once again this happens all over the world. None of these things sparked a war, only after 9/11 and the invasion of Afghanistan did Bush take his moment to invade. Could it be that Iraq is the second largest oil producer in the world? Could it be that Bush wouldn't have even invaded Iraq if not for 9/11 and the successful test-invasion of Afghanistan (supported by most of the public)? He chose his moment well, he used 9/11 well, he escalated the war on terror by giving deadly ambition to thousands of terrorists world-wide. May the thousands of people who've died in Iraq including the soldiers from all the participating countries thank GW Bush. May the 50 Londoners who died on July 7th thank GW Bush. May the people who died in Bali and Madrid thank GW Bush. May those who still have yet to die thank GW Bush. They are just another tribe who would do exactly what Saddam did. The media portrayed them as "the good guys" because they were against Saddam but they would have made the Shias and Sunnis into second class citizens in no time. Yes the Russian proposal is a good one. Why can't Iran be trusted?

We don't put people on the moon anymore because its extremely costly and doesn't give us any useful information. The extra weight and space needed is much better spent on detector equipment and fuel for unmanned probes and landers. If we're going to put a man anywhere its going to be Mars and will only be the Moon if we decide to set up a base there. I find your theory about the Ottoman Turks very generalised for the purposes of supporting your religious opinion. The single biggest reason for the decline of the Ottoman Empire was their religious culture. The rest of the world had sufficiently separated church from state over a hundred years before allowing for scientific advancement that left the Ottoman Turks still using swordsman on horses in the First World War. If you look at the Middle East you can see clearly how religion has stifled progress and the region would be just as poor as Africa if not for oil. If you look at the time from 0-1600 A.D. you'll see how little progress we made whilst religion had a hold over our culture and governments. So i very much believe the opposite is true.

The creation of a Palestinian State needs to be top of the agenda for Israel (not sanctions that'll force the population into desperate attacks when they start starving to death). Israel should have been created somewhere on American land like one of those states where almost no-one lives. I would trust them. I think the level of mis-trust has been blown out of proportion by the UN, the US and the media tool that they use.

*Jackie Chan goes on a mission to save some sacred ancient artifacts belonging to his "people" because that's what guys from the far east do* *When he gets to the bad-guy building he finds Chuck Norris roundhouse kicking everyone to death* "What the !@#$%^&* are you doing here Chuck?" "Oh i come here every couple of weeks to break some spinal cords* "So you don't know about the sacred ancient artifacts?" "Whats artifacts? You mean all that oriental crap those guys were protecting?" "Yes, my artifacts!" "Oh well it should be ok, you'll find a few ninja stars imbedded in them and you might have to lift a few corpses out of the way but otherwise they're in perfect nick Jackie" "You !@#$%^&*!" *Jackie summons his tribe of ninjas and Chuck is surrounded* *Luckily Superman is on hand to lift Chuck out of danger* *However Superman forgets that ninjas can fly and Chuck is too heavy because of his uranium tipped nunchakus* *Superman gets kicked in the face multiple times by ninjas but being the man of steel he manages to cling on to Chuck* *Suddenly out of the blue SeVeR fires a kryptonite bullet through Superman's head and he drops to the ground* *Chuck realises that he is about to fall 50 feet and uses Superman's limp body as a parachute slowing his descent* *With ninjas flying everywhere there is nothing left to do except roundhouse kick everyone to death again* *When there are no ninjas left Chuck grabs Supermans' corpse and melts it into a javelin* *Chuck throws the javelin at the fleeing SeVeR and pins SeVeR's heel to the ground. *With SeVeR stuck, Chuck roundhouse kicks him to death and then keeps on roundhouse kicking him until there is nothing left but a pulp-like mixture of bone and flesh.* *After seeing Superman's elaborate attempt to rescue Chuck, Jackie sees the error in his ways and decides that friendship with the ultimate fighting machine that is CHUCK NORRIS is the best way of staying alive.

I don't recognise Israels right to Palestinian land, i dislike America's foreign policy and i think nuclear power is the best way to generate electricity at the current time. Would I be portrayed within the media in the same way as the Iranian President if I was the leader of a country? I think Iran has every right to nuclear power as does any other country.

Welcome to the Politics Forum President Bush.

yea i was "Pirate" in Cru i think but didn't give DSB much of my time. Fenrir is almost as old as Seraphim but neither are as old as The Aces. I don't remember the name Detector other than in DSB (or Zes).

Just something where i don't have to read pages and pages of build-up story.

Whilst on a back-packing holiday in Australia.

Co is quite a good squad but they don't seem to win anything because there's always a bigger squad about. whats your 17th alias? Everyone from Seraphim joined Cru back when they were ownage (Unison, Unixon, Nomad, me and some others i think)

The Aces and Seraphim. I remember your name from somewhere too... were you on Crusaders?

i laughed so hard i almost broke my face. ....if it hadn't already been broken by Chuck Norris roundhouse kicking me out of the path of a crying baby

I can't come back for at least 10 months cos i'm in a top secret government lab in Tennessee right now and have to work lots of hours and act grown up and stuff... yea and i'm not kidding either. But next Christmas i'll be back in Britland for a while and will be playing SS again at a grand-old age of 22 (holy crap i'll be old in a year). Keep The Aces running until then and i'll come join.

But Chuck has balls of steel and you broke your foot *Chuck roundhouse kicks the guest through a strategically placed window into the path of a truck*

Wow The Aces are old old old school... they've been risen from the dead so many times they're like super zombies now with ninja skills and jetpacks and lasers and !@#$%^&*

Islam got the reputation before any cartoons were published. Their reputation with just the cartoon out there was no worse. However with the deaths in Pakistan and the burning of businesses, flags, cars and everything it is getting worse. Maybe the next cartoon will be about that.

*tries to HAX Chuck Norris' computer* *Chuck realises before i get his bank-account information and his multi-million dollar fortune is saved in the nick of time* *Chuck then karate chops his computer and builds a Haxor proof computer out of wood, sweat and nails* *Chuck gets in his big American car and accesses a satellite by Haxoring his GPS system and uses a special government Haxor code to locate my Haxor signal. *inevitably Chuck turns up at my house armed only with a 3-inch blade from a pen-knife and a pair of nunchakus. *against these odds i make a dash for the roof because being a villain i'm too stupid to run out the back-door* *Chuck scales the drain-pipe and flies through the window spraying gl!@#$%^&* onto the floor* *in true manic villain style i use the biggest mini gun i can find and fire aimlessly at the invincible Chuck Norris whilst snorting cocaine in a true American style anti-drug message* *Chuck throws his three-inch blade so hard that it actually clears a path through the bullets sending sparks in every direction whilst the camera does a neat slow-mo of a spinning knife* *the knife nestles in my forehead and i collapse* *Chuck hears the police coming so rather than dealing with them he jumps out of the window and using his nunchakus slides down a power cable that just happens to be carrying no current, has the perfect angle and is long enough to take him across to the next street..... and off into the night!*

said a diplodocus named Bob