Caerbannog

Coverts added as a squad, gave you captain rights. You can add players with !addplayer Coverts: to one of the bots in a 4v4 arena. !roster Coverts to view who you have. 8 players minimum. My many spies tell me that you've played DSB before. The max roster size is 14 if you can pull people from rival squads there over. To give yourself a fighting chance, it'll be even better if you get another squad of DSB "newbies" to play against a couple of times during the season. You've been on Genesis though so you probably know that it won't be just a walk in the park if you want to compete

Surrey - Captain (his banner is an elephant) Woods - Captain (played in finals) Cammi (played in finals) Mindriot (played in finals) Nilrem (played in finals) Vird Killer (played in finals) Hogbun (played in finals) Rex Lusty Hogbun Acidfreak Charas High Voltage Olympus Fixed for you my gud frnd.

Rules can be found in a separate thread. Rosters are unlocked for editing. Schedules and results for the season will be posted on these boards. The off-season will be a mere two weeks, March 6th will be pre-season. We'll see what March 13th will be. Lusty might be hosting events during the off-season.

4v4 Premier League & Prac rules Sort of current staff: Caerbannog+, 9-Volt+, Clerisy+ Things that are bannable -- everything bannable in pracs is also bannable in matches, but not necessarily vice versa, we do not have a command other than ban to fix most of these issues: Actions after dying OUT in a prac. Subbing into a prac and suiciding out. Subbing yourself in a prac at the cost of someone else. Playing for more than 3 lives, using any method. Auto-toggling items and such in matches / pracs. "Mystic" lagouts near death in matches are to be converted to deaths on the player / slot. We should have mod presence at matches in the playoffs for immediate action. For regular season, we'll see. Things that require mod presence / player conduct (use !burn, !refend, etc.): Illegal ship changing. (exception: death sub in a prac, since the bot will deem that illegal -- at least at the moment). Running in a prac without engaging while losing. !refend by an online mod. Players who like to do this should consider hitting f11. The prac will end and you will not have a death. Things that are generally frustrating: Speccing while the score is TIED. (the bot might randomly have the team with no players in win) Speccing while winning a prac after it has become a duel. (the bot might randomly have the team with no players in win) Players lagging out a million times in a prac, while the other team uses toys on these players. We cannot fix the zone lag limits. *spec is overridden by !return. Only a ban would prevent these players from entering, unless a lagout limit is added back onto the bots. Please consider having yourself subbed if there are other people wanting to play. It's good for the zone. -------------- 1. Some changes -- this section has not changed since Season 27. As a change to previous seasons, if you get banned during the week, we won't lift the ban for matches. So captains / squads, please make sure that your players don't act like assholes during the week. Most of the offences listed above will result in a three day ban. Repeat offenders get punished more. They should learn at some point. 1.1 At some point, a player is going to abuse the above rules and get banned by a staff member who has a game against the team of that player. It will be sad, but the ban is likely to stay in effect. The reasoning: Players might behave better, which will be better for everyone. The negative: There isn't enough staff to witness every abuse, and things like attaching after you die OUT of a game and thoring/repelling aren't too easy to spot on logs. 2. No powered names on the roster. Powered names have higher lagout limits than regular names, and could use some *commands 3. Double squadding is still bannable for the player, and punishable for the squad. Meaning all games with the player(s) in them will be converted to losses. 3.1. Some people are known to have brothers or sisters, some names are all screwed up in the alias viewer. Some people tell squad captains they're not double-squadding and join more than one squad, in these cases we need to figure it out. -------------- 4.0.0 -- Basic Standings rules. The season standings will be W/L -> K/D -> Alphabet on the bot. Playoff standings in 4.2. 4.0.1. -- BYE rounds and such If you end up with a BYE round, it's a 12-0 without showing up. 4.0.2. -- Playing times Playing times. As long as we only have 8 or less match-ups, we'll use 3PM and 4PM slots. If we have more than 16 squads, we'll add in the 2PM slot. The reasoning: People struggle to show up at 2, strong squads with their B-Line-ups isn't spectator worthy at 2. 4.0.4. -- Force majeure garbage Massive lag issues somewhere on the network. Should the issue arise, where a lot of (arbitrary number) players are online, but cannot play due to lag somewhere on the server, the games will be postponed. If the captains of two squads agree to play the game under random lag, the score will stand and the game will be played. These squads will have a bye the following weekend. International events postpone games. Superbowl does not. NHL finals do not. The Olympics, while international, do not. Christmas and New Years do (+- a couple of days so people have time to finish their holidays). The reasoning: We're here to play matches, somehow having lag throw everyone off their game doesn't seem worth it. We can change this rule to "all games are played, even if global lag prevents both teams from fielding 4." 4.0.5. -- Number of players, no-shows The minimum number of players required to start a game is 2. A squad will be kicked from league if they no-show two weekends in a row, or a total of 4 times during the season. All no-shows count as 0-12, same as BYE rounds. Unused slots do not automatically close, late entries are ok. Unused slots on the losing team will be converted to deaths before the matches are ended. To get this done, use ?help to notify an online staff member. 4.1. -- Random note The squads with staff representation should not be scheduled on the same slot, if this can be avoided. 4.2. -- Playoff split & standings formula The PRO playoffs will be top 6 squads. AML Playoffs will include all the rest by using X bye rounds for the top seeds, resulting in a total of eight(or four) squads by the second round. All Final games will be best of 3. Playoff games are best of 1, up to semi-"finals". With 6 squads, the top two teams get a BYE in Pro while #3 plays #6 and #4 plays #5. #1 seed gets to choose which match-up they want their opponents from. Same goes for AML, varied to match in numbers. Playoff standings: W/L -> H2H between the tied squads -> H2H between the tied squads, and squads above tied squads -> K/D between tied squads -> K/D between tied squads and above -> K/D in league. Quick, bad example: #5, #6 and #7 are all 6-6 at the end of the season, the bot assigns them these numbers because their K/D are +1, 0 and -1. If in that group #7 with -1 has defeated #5 and #6, they will be the real #5 and make Pro. 4.3 -- Rosters, aliasing. The maximum roster size is 14. For new squads, the minimum roster size is 8 (NOTE: All rostered players must have a visible eRating). 4.3.1. -- Roster lock 1. Rosters will be unlocked until round 1. Captains can add and remove players normally. 2. Rosters will be locked for captains and players before round 1. 3. No changes on rosters on Sundays (unless the request and ok for a move have been sent prior to any given Sunday) - 3.1. Unless we can make sure this player hasn't played on any squad in any round, thus being completely new to league. - 3.1.1. And even in that case, no one will be removed to make room for this player. - 3.1.2. The rule 3.1. includes players who have previously played for the same squad they want to play for again. No going around the cap like that. 4. All movement between rosters will be handled by the staff (which will need the request from the player and an ok from the captain of the target squad, which might take a while.). Just to make sure people don't change names etc. - 4.1. We can track changes in the staff thread if necessary. - 4.2. Staff is needed to prevent changing names - 4.3. Captains can request a player to be removed from their squad at any time. - 4.4. Players will only be moved once a week (so you can't be indecisive and tell the staff you're changing squads, no, not really, put me back) 5. No name changes. Both for players and Squads. Especially squads. - 5.1. Announcing that you're dissolving a squad, just to remake it under a different name won't work for you. All late entry squads get 0-12 scores for all the rounds up to the current one. 6. Maximum of one game a week, playing more than one using any loophole or method will be penalized (player and squad the player broke the rules on). 7. Final roster lock for movement, excluding homeless pilots by dissolves is usually the last round in the schedule rotation, if it is being rotated. (So in Season 33, R11.) - 7.1. Should a sneaky captain remove players from his/her squad just before the roster lock, thus potentially leaving the players locked out, extra squadjoin time will be granted to those players. - 7.2. Players not on a roster can be added up to Round 9. Players on a roster cannot be removed after round 6 though. So if you're full at round 7, it will be your final roster. 8. If a captain of a squad looks inactive and the players don't want to join other squads, the staff will bestow ownership on two active members. - 8.1. Inactivity will be based on showing up on match scoresheets, or having been seen in game, the results of ?find, and any whine from the squad members. So pretty much as many squadhops as you'd like within squads that aren't maxed out. Leaving the league integrity to each player him or herself. PROs: If you don't like your squad, you can change squads as long as you arrange it with the new squad. CONs: Rosters might be getting scrambled all the time, thus effectively ruining the little integrity our league has. Inactive captains pose a problem. 4.4 Subbing. The subbing rules are/should be as follows: - One full sub at any point until the last 10 minutes of the match. - Full death subs (1 minute timer, !allowsub is the responsibility of the team's captain). - Lag-out subs etc. are burned. - You can sub one slot as many times as you want to. The only use for this is ship changes via subs. Players who have subbed or lagged out, can not re-enter. - The one minute timer also counts for SCs, you should have one minute to SC. - The full sub can be used on a slot that was already lag / death subbed. Captains: !allowsub !fullsub Player going in> !sub # The reasoning: You need less talented people to "stack" a team to being competitive. 4.5 Game start, spectator conduct, game end. Spectators should remain in spec during the 1 minute count down. Squads should remain somewhat distant from each other until GO! (meaning do not go float on top of the enemies). No firing until GO!. Massive abuse is bannable / punishable / appealable. Spectators, as well as players in-game, are not to harass the other team by freq or private messages. Public messages are fine, since ?nopubchat fixes that. We do not want to pretend that a player in-game has the time to ?ignore everyone. Spectators need the squad captains' permission to be on their freq during games. Games at 5-5 or less score at a margin of 1 go to overtime. Overtime is, I believe, infinite even during the regular season now. Games at 6-5, 5-6 or more end even with a margin of one. The bot currently does not have a 5 minute lagout timer anymore. All lagged out / specced out slots will still be converted to deaths (read below). NOTE: There were some cases last season where someone shot at the enemies around 6 seconds left in the countdown, almost getting a kill at 0:01. Refs, let's go with a 2 minute timer from the ?help message/arrival in arena in case the last players lag or spec out. There is an obvious exploit in jumping to spec and letting the timer run. This will not be tolerated. Any squad attempting to run out the timer by sitting in spec will receive a loss. Do it again and there will be bans. Being stuck in a flawed ship (no multi, 99% charge, no bouncing bullets) is bad luck and the players' responsibility. No enforced shipresets. Same with spawning a new ship. Same with being in the wrong ship at game start. Same with lagging out during the countdown and starting in spec, you'll have to sub an un-used slot, resulting in no toys. The reasoning: We don't have enough staff to be present in all games fixing these things. While mean, the rules are the same to everyone as enforced by the bots. 4.6 These rules... are not complete. They're just supposed to be visible for everyone in one place. Are all subject to change even mid-season if something calls for it. Including a big enough change in the total squad amount, or closer to the playoffs, the scheduling. Including ship settings. Yes, they were designed so that wb is the default ship. That is because it has no "trick" features. 5. Ship Settings: http://www.subspace.co/topic/26024-4v4-ship-settings/ 6.0 -- Good to know league things for captains: 1. When a player lags out but the bot doesn't count it (!stats -> LO means lagouts) captains need to !setlagout lagged-out-player. Do not repeat the command too much or you'll end with 3 lag outs on the player, which means they are stuck in spec. 2. You need to !allowsub all subs after the GO! The bot also forgets this command if the sub leaves the arena. 3. Anyone on the squad freq can !cap to gain captain powers. All rostered captains should have them by default. -- roster Captains seem to get ignored a lot. 4. Read the forums. The posts there can achieve things the bot, bots commands etc. can not. 5. All violations of the rules, such as double-squadders playing for your squad, might result in penalties. 6. Captains should have access to 4v4 Council on the forums, a place intended for more civilized chat. (every third post won't be a random image or a reference to a game that took place 2 seasons ago) 7. There has been at least one incident of a player who is being subbed leaving the arena before !fullsub was applied, causing a burned ship. Doesn't look like there's a way around it if the bot decides to be an ass. Pre-Season / match: !addplayer Squadname:Playername !removeplayer Squadname:Playername !editaccess playername:1 makes people captains. :0 makes them active. -- should be accessible by captains, if it is not, message a staff member to change status. The difference is that if the staff asks for a captain to reply for a squad on the forum, we might not always remember who the "main" captain is, and take something from the other roster captains as the squads' opinion. Good to know things for players: !removeplayer yoursquad:%selfname will make you leave the roster of your squad, prior to roster lock.

Yeah that'd be Assassins. Hasty copy pastes, sorry Also Pub Squad wasn't a real squad, it was an option for a BYE round win.

I'd like to play Luckily someone just told me they're staring a new squad too. You'd be the fourth player on it. And I think Armored Fist will make a comeback and join it

S26 rosters pre-round 1: Assassins Roster Name Captain Erat Mop Captain 2051 Necro 1884 Sika 1883 9-Volt Captain 1738 Ro 1662 Dingo 1650 Twizllur 1616 taifun 1579 Three 1569 Enemy Captain 1472 bhang 1348 Teddy 1347 develop 1337 Zeit 1287 Grifter 1248 burt 1208 Makak 1174 Neo Captain 1143 vik 1047 pez 987 Total: 20 Top 8 Erat: 1758 Fly-NDeath Roster Name Captain Erat gold teeth Captain 1132 Snafu 1037 DAYTONA 983 Gofaq Yosef 983 Psychopathy 975 Thc 974 Spawn 967 Newby Girl 958 Hooker Spit 861 G.U.S. 859 Ccruler 852 a contrarian 848 T e c h Grl 801 Lord Union Captain 770 King Diamond 718 Vird Killer 641 U.S.S. Enterprise Captain 592 philOsOphy 555 Sparklin 499 Moooose 456 Total: 20 Top 8 Erat: 1001 Llamas Roster Name Captain Erat Action Caerbannog 1685 Delete GhostBuster17 1586 Shikaa 1505 Street Fighter Captain 1465 Perceptor 1443 Bushes 1412 Soul Assassin 1409 Mog 1327 Pollutant 1190 a-soul 1185 Civilized Worm Captain 1174 Uni 1133 IoDa 1131 fresh 1028 Jenn_B 959 Plumpy 948 Lion 939 kurah 928 Wado Kai 701 Total: 19 Top 8 Erat: 1479 Luster Roster Name Captain Erat Mindriot 1438 Clocker Captain 1149 fatal error 1084 Watch 1003 l$d 972 rex Captain 694 Mr. Ferguson Captain Total: 7 Top 8 Erat: 906 Nightwatch Roster Name Captain Erat Covert Agent Captain 1763 a suicidal dentist 1557 Loki 1555 Kepi 1418 Morpheus 1379 Kejami 1355 acidreign 1291 neef 1238 jamuraan 1143 AOL 1135 Division by Zero 1076 spy 1069 Tarnished Silver 987 fists 921 Kinetics 877 obe 784 tortilla 771 WORDS 668 Novelty 656 Ghost Ship 642 Total: 20 Top 8 Erat: 1445 OUTLAWS Roster Name Captain Erat The Village Bike 1810 KinGNewbiE Captain 1795 Torello 1709 JOCKER 1680 Legatus 1654 Dillinja 1645 7th saga 1603 vt 1346 zoldan- 1333 Slomo 1319 realdeal 1300 Tom Petty 1279 the seven year itch 1268 hibachi Captain 1040 Fearlezz Captain 994 psyanide Captain 960 FLOo 762 Total: 17 Top 8 Erat: 1655 Pub Squad Roster Name Captain Erat Statwhore Captain 1306 Keo 1116 Version 1049 Uni01 1035 sadness 1022 Fragile Agile 1013 I<3Woods!=) 1012 Jim Kramer 1010 preator 1010 TRENCH WARS PILOT 1003 PaperPlanes 994 Eyes Only 989 happy fisherman 975 STEAMROLLER 973 0 moderation 971 megapuss 948 matey+ Captain 842 Officer friendly Pub Newblet Total: 19 Top 8 Erat: 1070 Rebels Roster Name Captain Erat dagger 1674 euripedes 1469 Masterlord Captain 1460 Giphen Wun 1413 Raspi 1294 oppilas- 1286 Ra Captain 1218 aramen 1217 Sabrewolf 1179 baku 1113 midnight 1041 Nee 1003 Fly 999 Pog 974 Nightmare 945 Reso 940 lesnar 939 vys 931 Lax 897 Cog 586 Total: 20 Top 8 Erat: 1379 red hawks Roster Name Captain Erat Veivi Captain 1342 Pempu 1156 Reaper Man Captain 1114 Horse 1083 hawky 1017 Scheisse 1011 Schweinhund 1004 dingdingbang 1000 entr0py 996 jeep 994 schwanzkopf 991 Punainen Haukka 988 Lederhosen 987 Arschloch 985 XorX 953 IcEmAn 932 kemi 931 spring Wahnsinn Total: 19 Top 8 Erat: 1091 ReDS Roster Name Captain Erat woL 1357 Obstacle 1 1170 Felony 1157 skO 1155 Silica 1100 DMD 1072 LaST CaLL 1060 Bogie 1045 Low Captain 1007 hendrix Captain 997 Worker 995 Covered 980 ExpliSiVe 968 WastY 919 Leaky 912 kAtAnA 890 Bloodmoon 880 Crisis Captain 848 Winter 843 Total: 19 Top 8 Erat: 1140 StarFire Elite Roster Name Captain Erat Pehkle 1566 Nie 1348 Something Dutch 1230 Alperri 1079 noskill 1069 Joe Jr. 1064 Mauler 1052 MfA Captain 1052 G o G o 1047 Divine 1016 scubie 988 Jones 951 Svitantti 915 Norps 853 Subjunky 766 Panny. 687 H.A.M 683 Da Vinci 655 Digital_HR 651 Solar Hydro Captain 466 Total: 20 Top 8 Erat: 1183 Sterling Roster Name Captain Erat life 1666 Seismic Captain 1608 Kdakcialkdja 1579 Beastie 1569 traxx 1560 varsity 1555 mr. penguin 1426 elmo 1422 primos 1343 oug 1336 Jake Captain 1327 lunacriss 1318 Maimer Captain 1310 ice Captain 1296 Jaku 1265 BloodyEssence 1219 nine 1178 Baldorin 1171 Pepperjack 1030 Total: 19 Top 8 Erat: 1548 The Dark Roster Name Captain Erat Da Monkk Captain 1879 Disease 1871 Blink Captain 1603 POWER 1589 Benji 1495 Chrono 1494 Legacy 1469 Captor 1451 Miner 1414 Devil's Dad 1413 NadaI 1344 Diablo 1301 Crayzee 1290 Miasma 1256 Nel 1256 Korean 1251 Sky 1197 Motorzep 1006 Valheru 988 g!$! 707 S27, pre-round 1: Name Captain Erat Mop Captain 2051 Sika 1883 9-Volt Captain 1738 ossi 1733 ro 1662 Dingo 1650 Three 1569 Enemy Captain 1472 bhang 1348 Teddy 1347 Develop 1337 burt 1208 makak 1174 Neo Captain 1143 Total: 14 Top 8 Erat: 1720 BYE Round Roster Name Captain Erat 12-0 Total: 1 Top 8 Erat: 0 Genesis Roster Name Captain Erat Euripedes 1469 Ordos Captain 1051 Br`er Captain 998 THC 996 Martyr 994 Sage 986 zamdigity 977 babaloo Captain 967 general bone Captain 913 Swift 837 AlphaWing 662 blasphemous Total: 12 Top 8 Erat: 1055 Impeccable Roster Name Captain Erat Psycho Psematic 984 Big Poppa Smurf Chesty Smurf Captain Drippy Smurf Horny Smurf MILF Smurf Monster Smurf Murder Smurf Ninja Smurf Pimpin' Smurf superman smurf The Bear Smurf Total: 12 Top 8 Erat: 123 Llamas Roster Name Captain Erat Action Caerbannog 1685 Delete Ghostbuster17 1586 Shikaa 1505 Street Fighter Captain 1465 Perceptor 1430 Bushes 1412 Soul Assassin 1409 Parabola 1372 A-Soul 1185 Hooker with a Penis Captain 1167 Uni 1133 Plumpy 948 Wado Kai 701 Total: 13 Top 8 Erat: 1483 Manatoid Roster Name Captain Erat Pension Captain 1279 a candy Captain 1127 tomppa Captain 1107 Syreen Captain 1030 KATANA Captain 997 Zinga 983 Molotow Captain 973 beebumblebee Manatee Matti Vanhanen Munatoti Uzibot-666 Total: 12 Top 8 Erat: 937 Nightwatch Roster Name Captain Erat Covert Agent Captain 1763 a suicidal dentist 1557 Loki 1555 Kepi 1418 acidreign 1291 neef 1238 Jamuraan 1143 SpY 1069 Division by Zero 1059 Tarnished Silver 987 Kinetics 877 Tortilla 771 Total: 12 Top 8 Erat: 1379 OUTLAWS Roster Name Captain Erat KinGNewbiE Captain 1839 Dillinja 1662 7th Saga 1603 Enforcer 1445 KriLYu 1321 realdeal 1282 the seven year itch 1279 Hogbun 1272 DarkDenizen 1095 hibachi Captain 1087 danks 1070 Bishop 1049 FEARLEZZ Captain 994 Plarep 926 Total: 14 Top 8 Erat: 1463 Rebels Roster Name Captain Erat Dagger 1674 Masterlord Captain 1460 Giphen Wun 1413 vt 1343 Oppilas- 1298 Raspi 1294 Ra Captain 1218 Aramen 1217 sab 1151 Baku 1113 Shrine 1015 Seriel Killer 982 Pog 970 supermatey Total: 14 Top 8 Erat: 1365 ReDS Roster Name Captain Erat player killer 1427 sKO 1098 Woods 1073 Pretender 1050 vik 1047 supermang Captain 1003 Worker 989 Indecisive 955 Wasty 919 Slugs 910 Bloodmoon 880 Crisis Captain 848 supersuper 840 Super Bunny 703 Total: 14 Top 8 Erat: 1080 StarFire Elite Roster Name Captain Erat Pehkle 1566 Something Dutch 1195 Joe Jr. 1064 Mauler 1052 MfA 1052 G o G o 1047 Ankh 1007 scubie 988 Jones 951 Norps 845 INRI 814 Panny. 684 Da Vinci 655 Solar Hydro Captain 454 Total: 14 Top 8 Erat: 1121 Sterling Roster Name Captain Erat Seismic Captain 1608 Kdakcialkdja 1579 traxx 1557 Varsity 1547 elmo 1422 mr. penguin 1422 ouG 1336 Maimer Captain 1310 Jaku 1290 Colt 1120 MIME 1100 Pepperjack 1030 John Digweed Porcupine Tree Captain Total: 14 Top 8 Erat: 1473 The Dark Roster Name Captain Erat Da Monkk Captain 1864 Barbarian 1752 Blink Captain 1627 JOCKER 1613 Benji 1518 Chrono 1482 Legacy 1474 Captor 1451 Devil's Dad 1408 NadaI 1344 Crayzee 1290 Korean 1251 Motorzep 988 Valheru 988 Total: 14 Top 8 Erat: 1598 Triumph Roster Name Captain Erat Medicus Captain 1048 Fembot Captain 810 I don't seem to have rosters for S28, but the squads are/were: Assassins, Happy Mob, Llamas, Morph, Nightwatch, Outlaws, Rebels, StarFire Elite, Sterling, The Dark, Unhallowed

Players looking for a squad can post here, as well as captains who want to confirm their squad will be returning. All the squads will more or less be assumed to return anyways, though.

Two divisions with what we have seems odd. It'd just mean Assassins have to wait until the playoffs to play TD/OL/Ster (well, 2 of the 3). So reg season for them would be a complete joke Then again, by majority decision, a fixed schedule would probably be more interesting to most squads. The top and bottom are the ones that get shafted the most in it. Happy Mob also joined mid-season... that wouldn't be possible in a fixed schedule, or maybe it would. --- Input from other squad captains or individuals would greatly be appreciated.

The reason it originally died was due to no-shows. It ran on saturdays (I think), and the games only took about 5-15 minutes. If we were to bring it back we'd need to figure out a better league format/schedule (Saturdays would be good, if people are willing to show up for like 3 matches per weekend). We haven't had a consistent host either, and the status of the bots is a mystery (regarding schedules, roster). 4v4 Will at least attempt to run more seasons. Feel free to bring in a squad or two (just for a few equally matches games a season). If you bring enough, we'll split the league into PRO and AML