what you dont understand is that when you get to the level of skills of jowie or rb, you couldnt give 2 fucks about whose whatever is whatever
you also need to understand that phoenix is completely separate from ss and is radically different
im pretty sure that was the "ss sounds i made with my mouth" by the user "courage" on these forums i think it also made it onto the tw forums by being reposted by someone else i never heard it, so i could be completely wrong