I want this question asked. The day the players start paying for the servers and putting up with how re!@#$%^&*ed they are then they can vote on council members. This is a free game, no player has any rights to tell any of us who spend countless hours and countless dollars financing this game how we should run our zones/servers/billers/etc. This isn't a democracy, this isn't a nation state, grow up. If you go by that, then the people who donate to the zones don't mean !@#$%^&*. They just help pay your bills, and drop countless dollars financing the game. I donated to MG back in the day numerious times, but no one gave a crap so I quit donating. I'll be !@#$%^&*ed if I give money to people who don't even bother saying, "thanks". The players donate, they give money, they spend their time playing your zone, and you don't give them any say in what happens. The way it is now doesn't mean !@#$%^&*. The people who help don't get any respect. They get a !@#$%^&*ty mod job and are told to f off when it comes to the desisions of the zone. Even if you create a great zone, you have no say in what happens with SSC (case in point, Mystic Kingdom. Great zone, great style, does anyone care? nope...) The only way you can work your way up in this game is to get on your knees and give someone head, then you end up with zones like Halo and Desert Storm. The structure of this game needs to change because it's currently run by those who don't give a !@#$%^&* about the people who populate their zone, donate, and help out. Those with the ability to do anything sit in spec and idle 90% of the time while they sit on a mailing list that's sent out to a bunch of !@#$%^&* bags that don't care about the game anymore. You horde this fianace crap over people's heads, but I bet Testtube still foots the bill for the SSCC server. Even if he doesn't, I'm sure you get donations from your players. Either way, my point still stands. No one gives a crap for the people who donate their time and money. They get !@#$%^&* on (another case in point, the forum system that Halo currently runs was bought by me. After the takeover happened schitt took the backup and fired up the forums again, I haven't heard from him since and he doesn't respond to any msgs). People just don't care anymore. Does anyone care? No. Hosts take over zones and completely byp!@#$%^&* those who worked hard to make it what it was. Does anyone care? No. I put 3 years as an admin of this forum in, making skins, updates, adding things to the forum, taking care of trouble makers...I make one "mistake" (I deleted the users with 0 posts and who hadn't logged in in over a year) and I get axed. And you wonder why there's a lack of developers and a decrease in population... Those who run the show don't care, why should anyone else? Those who make desisions in this game have become like a high school clique. You sit huddled up and push away anyone who wants to join, while you snicker and abuse everyone else...and you tell me to grow up...