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Do you believe everything you read, Spin?

What are these evil policies you speak of? \ (I know a general guideline of what you people mostly say, but I want to know specifically.)

Come on Spin, do you actually think that we are brainwashed or products of an "Echo machine"? Your excuse for everything is about how Conservatives are trying to destroy the universe. Get past thinking that George Bush is Big Brother and then maybe we can have a real discussion.

LOL Paine! Nice post

Spin, you weasled your way out of that one too. You tell everyone that they're wrong - but you don't say why. Do tell, Spin.

Rofl, that sounds impartial and worth reading... You never tell us any of the lies, Spin. You tapdance around the whole issue. Give us something to debate!

Spin, do you even acknowledge the possibility that people could do something good just to be a good person? Or does your consiracy-ridden world not permit that from Conservatives?

To Ail: Hitler hated Stalin and Communism/Socialism. I would go find quotes but I'm too tired. To Monte: Of course oil was part of the decision. It's politics and Bush is a politician. The question is: How much of a role did it play in his decision? It seems to me that most liberals hear "facts" on CNN newsand in Forwarded emails about how X number of people are dying in Iraq and Bush knew about 9/11, etc and believe what they hear. Then they think they're so smart and try to actually do something about it or complain about it. ^I know that I'm probably wrong, I just can't help thinking so.

People also have the right to control their own property, Spin. TestTube is doing what he wants with it. You have the right to free speach all you want in your own zone, but when you're in someone else's you obey their rules. PS. It wouldn't kill you to visit a non-SSC zone, would it?

Astro, I wasn't saying - I was saying that it has existed all along and nothing is new about it. Don't put words in my mouth - especially ones that contradict what I'm saying. If you ever used a source, then if it was liberal I would say so. Most libs on here go get information from republicanssuck.com and call it impartial. [slight editing done...Sorry I seem to be doing it a lot these days...If I go to far remember to say something. -Aileron]

I don't know either of you. You seem like a person who ignores factual evidence against your statement and who takes whatever they can get to support theirs (using whatever sources, reliable or not). Your stupid cartoons don't help your argument, they just make me have to scroll down further to read what you wrote. I'm open to your ideas... however you don't present any. You put down Bush, etc, but you don't ever give a reason. You hide behind pictures and biased sources. Give us something to discuss, Spin - at least we'll have that since it doesn't look like you'll be unbanned any time soon.

Give an example of negative campaigning. It has been going on for many years and you might have just not realized it until now. Maybe two presidential elections ago you weren't old enough or aware of it.

90% of the things you said happen in all zones. You say all this stupid stuff about Bush, but you don't even say anything bad that he's done... You think you know all of these 'facts' about Conservatism, but you just utter garbage from your mouth. Try actually researching some of the political topics that you discuss... and when I say researching, I don't mean from www.ihatebush.com. There is a political forum for a reason. Use it. You are fighting a winless war, Spin. No one is going to un-netban you. You're just further digging yourself into the hole. Quit while you're behind.

I can't wait 'til you get back.

Well if your argument has no integrity, what makes you not wrong?

Common sense: If your information is unreliable/absent, you are wrong. I never said I was right - simply that you're wrong.

Worthless actually made points and used sources. Spin did not. Try using periods and capitalization next time... Ahem. The liberals attacked Bush's record... was that not a low blow? Could you please, for once, use a source? It's just you and spin talking about all of these things you 'know'. The definition of political party: Noun 1. political party - an organization to gain political power. It's the definition - live with it. ??? Try giving an example next time - or even using your brain would suffice.

Astro, you just agreed with someone who didn't actualy SAY anything. This is because what you said was WRONG. He had valid, impartial sources (which are a rare commodity on these forums) that proved you wrong. He used vulgarity because it is frustrating when people post and believe things that are simply wrong. You make no sense there. You say that he says our troops aren't there, and then say that if they were there we would be invaded...? It seems like you meant to prove him wrong, when in reality you agreed with him?? Astro, you have done nothing to disprove any of what you call 'conservative propganda'. I defended him because he said the same things that I think. Maybe if you actually made intelligent, backed-up discussion on here you wouldn't get owned so much.

Spin, you sound like a liberal consiracy theorist who thinks they know the 'truth' because of what they read from liberal sources. Just look at "http://mediamatters.org/". Every article on there is against Bush. The site sounds like an impartial one, but read it before you post it as an unslanted source. For God's sake, the next source's !@#$%^&*le was "Neo-Conned" and all I had to do was read the first sentence of the last one to know not to read the rest of it. You tatter on about Neo-Conservatism but you make no real point. You merely tried to disprove some people with your bogus sources and agree with others who had weak points. You agreed that it was just like Communism that began in the 50's. Are you some sort of expert? Who cares if you think that someone is "Bingo" with a point? It is nothing like Communism to me. There are no Joe McCarthys or propaganda films. Bush isn't trying to scare people into a war. You made no point there. It was merely an attempt at bashing someone. No point there either... you say he's wrong but you don't prove anything. Try proving something instead of giving what looks like just an opinion. Why don't you try telling us what the reason we went to war is, then? You think you're great at debunking reasons why we are, but why don't you tell us why we are? I never said why we were going to war, I simply stated outcomes of the war. You have done neither. Next time you post, try making a point. You put down other ideas without valid sources or even an idea behind it. Anyone can post their opinions on here. Opinions and facts divide intelligent discussions from brainwashed babble.

Playing in a non-SSC zone won't kill you, I promise.

Wasn't he shot eight times? Three three-round burst shots seems excessive to me.

John who?

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Very useful post lear <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Like that one and this one?

Me or him? I included that because I knew that it was meant as an insult.