let me tell you all a little story, it goes like this: one day, the sysops decided to -*BAD WORD*- with the settings the next day, kentbrockman decided to exploit the sysops -*BAD WORD*- and lay bricks eternally so the sysops -*BAD WORD*-ed with settings more and raised shark attach bty to 'fix' it instead of just UN-*BAD WORD*-ing the settings eventually (because of the -*BAD WORD*-ing) it was only fair to raise spider attach bty, too - as millions of bricks and millions of bursts tend to have the same effect now everybody just S T F U before the sets get EVEN MORE -*BAD WORD*-ed up