lmao this topic amuses me so. If you want to spend hours reading transcripts of Bush's speeches then go ahead, i don't have the time or the willingness to do so. So basically what you are saying, Sever, is you don't have the quote, you don't know where to find the quote because you pretty much made it up. Don't you think that if Bush made that statement it would be the easiest thing in the world to just google and find? I think it would be a pretty popular topic if it was actually stated by him. Let me try to find it, no luck yet. Why don't you give it a try for me please? Example please? Otherwise i've had enough of your inane comments which are themselves just your opinion being cited as fact (omg.. why do i keep finding your comments hypocritical!). He doesn't need to cite examples in all honestly. Just look at every post you have made. It is all filled with your opinion. What you believe should be true. That doesn't make it fact. Sorry to burst your bubble, Sever, but just because you believe it, doesn't make it a fact. Now to be a little on topic, I pretty much agree with SVS and Worthless and Wonderer on nearly all their posts. It is the Lebanonese governments' duty to control, or at least even attempt to control the terrorist group, and if that fails seek help *gasp* in that endeavor. A definition really isn't good enough to describe the term government and what it represents really. It is just too weak. It really must be presented in the form of a conceptual theory in order to understand why the goverment is responsible to control and regulate those who live within its boundaries. However, I do not have to desire to actually present that to you as you probably don't even know the difference. But if you don't believe me, then you must have a skewed idea of what government is and I am not sure what to tell you. Regardless and what either of us believe a government is responsible for, they have failed to control the hostile group within their country and allowed them to continue their acts of destruction. And are now feeling to repercussions of their negligence. It is naive to think that a country that has been in a corner fighting for a large portion of its existence would not retaliate, especially in greater force. It's called a deterrent. Israel is showing that any attack against it will be met with much greater force. Any normal country would do the same. As stated earlier (by SVS I think, not sure, don't care to look for sure) Israel should not be held to any higher standards than anyone else just because they are in a hot zone. On a side note, depending on which book you read, the Israelites lived there first. Which book is right? (granted I don't know which book actually says otherwise, but I am sure it exists). Guess we won't know until I invent a time travel car based on a saturn, yay! Anyway, I doubt I will be visiting this topic much. Feel free to reply in much the same kind you did before, Sever. I am sure it will be equally repe!@#$%^&*ive, boring, and nothing more than amusement and a nuisance to those that can actually consider the other side of an argument and debate (and also actually cite your sources for quotes ffs. you spent the time to make 20 or so posts, you can at least spend to them to cite quotes).