Routes on the internet are not necessarily symmetric. So a one-way trace is not always what it looks like. This image shows a trace from you to the zone, with the red arrows showing the paths of the trace packets and the "error" returns. Traces to A come back through the same path, so latency and packetloss are pretty accurate. However, replies to traces to B come back through a different route. If the router C is having problems, you may get late packets or none at all, making it look like router B is not replying. The only way to get a better picture of what's going on is to have a sysop *trace you from the server as well. http://home.maine.rr.com/user/ekted/trace.jpg