According to you then, a player must immediately go onto a flagging team when they enter the zone and cannot afk, and if they do and so happen to get onto the winning team, they are deemed to be hopping? Even according to your example, there were other players who often go onto winning teams when they have the chance, and never before have they been forcibly switched or degranted, simply because there is no rule against it since they were always playing within the rules of the game that were laid out. You're simply starting a very slippery slope in which staff can simply dislike a certain player and choose to punish them whenever they have even close to a viable excuse. The lame rule is far too broad and rarely ever enforced since it is so ambiguous and easily abusable. We could consider player's that run in center and never stay and fight as lame behavior, players (and staff) who run into safe before dying to someone as lame behavior. However none of this is ever labeled under the lame rule even though this is clearly lame. As far "exploiting" the balancer, if there really is such an obvious flaw and a simple one, fix it? What you are alleging I did, I am not the first nor will I be the last to what you call "exploitation". When was the last time someone was warned for that? If you're going to enforce these rules, at least enforce them for everyone in that case and make it more apparent that it is illegal. When you balance a flag game, make it clear before the start of a game that you are. You were on a winning team earlier and it was unbalanced, you didnt even bother considering balancing the teams though. What will actually determine what games are balanced and who will balance them? Even if you balance out the players that often "hop" according to your biased opinion, is that even close to making them balanced then? Also if that is the case, wont players the same players be constantly balanced? All I'm seeing is you choosing when to use your powers against those you want to rather than being fair and just if that is the case. Your sequence of events are wrong btw.. I was in spec, and got onto the team. Without notice or any mention of "balancing" you forcibly put me on the other team. I go into spec and am confused since this happened. I go back on the original team and I'm once again switched onto the other team. I go back in spec and there I receive a warning and then while still in specced am degranted 23k.