Maybe I should just add to my signature that I was an smod/bot developer in Alpha West SVS, owner of the defunct scrabble zone which I may still have the code for the bot laying around, and sysop of SSCV Battle Zone SVS and former jrmod in SSCE Hyperspace... maybe someone will care about me then.... Or that I programmed my first terriclone called SPACEWARZ in 10th grade (1995-96) using Turbo PASCAL. It was called SPACEWARZ and everything was done with ASCII graphics. Actually it was not multiplayer. The enemies (omega symbols) just belined directly for you. There was powerups when you killed enemies, fully functional radar (used pixels instead of ascii), tractor beam for grabbing power ups, different weapons including homing beam and wave beam. A super death weapon that shot lasers out and killed every enemy on screen. Maybe that will make people care about me.... probably not. What else can I say to my credit? This maybe: http://advice.eharmony.com/boards/groups/relationships/christian-singles/51588-online-communication-and-reading-comprehension-101-a.html I don't know... it doesn't really seem to matter how much credentials a person has. Unless you code ASSS and have the time to make your ideas a reality, your ideas get filtered by those who do code ASSS and have their own ideas to make reality. I'm considering starting my own zone again and paying people to do my work for me.