If they were built to run Vista effectively, they will still run XP effectively - it's basically the same kernel/core. Personally, I think Vista has it's good and bad points, but on the whole the lack of ease for customisability - not just for Vista, but Windows in general is a real pain in the arse, so I'm going to avoid it until SP2 is out at least. Also, it seems that Vista has gone a little OTT with it's security features. I'd like a big off switch on that - provided you're not a re!@#$%^&*, it's not hard to stop people from accessing your !@#$%^&*. Well, saying that - I'm buying a Mac soon, so meh. -Lynx