I think you have some valid points, but mainly personal opinions. Sure, I've played this game since VIE, and sure, Subspace definately sparked more of an interest in me many years ago. To me, SS is kind of like an ex-girlfriend, you slam here long and hard enough, you eventually get bored. But some time down the line, you have a few brews, have the urge to get your !@#$%^&*y sticky, so what do you do? You call that !@#$%^&*. You tell her what she wants to hear, and when it's all said and done you still had a good time even though it's not equally as good as when you first met her. All I'm trying to say is, for me, SS is one of those games I pick up every now and then and still manage to have a blast. Mind you, 95% of the people I first met while playing this game are long gone. Either way, it is still a good way to reminisce on past good times, although my zones of choice have suffered drastically and dwindled away to nothingness. After many leaves of absence, and triumphant returns, there isn't a doubt in my mind I will still play Subspace part-time until the death of it. So shoot me, or call me a nerd, or whatever, because I could personally give 2 ASSS. Oh yeah, and as Ophie was trying to explain, there is a definate increase in the amount of Brown-Nosing going on. What happened to the days of people saying what was on their mind without worrying about a simple silence or perm-ban?? Grow some cohenas and don't expect all that !@#$%^&* kissing to do you any good, because I !@#$%^&*ure you in most cases, it won't.