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And my graphs show that the earth has gone through such drastic changes before. Without human intervention. And your example is an extreme. With your example, we would be tripling the global warming factor. http://cdiac.esd.ornl.gov/pns/current_ghg.html From the US Department of energy. Good site on calculating the global warming factor. And more information as to just how much of global warming humans cause. http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/greenhouse_data.html This is not the first site, and check the references at the bottom, you can find all of the information they used themselves, to prove that humans contribute .28% to the greenhouse effect. From my data it is shown that we have a very small effect over the climate, and ultimately things should be done to lower emissions and save trees as any little bit helps, but we have other causes that could use the billions, that I fear, will be allocated to fix a problem we have minimal control over.

A 3% raise in CO2 is fairly minimal. The biggest contributing factor is that along with the raise of 3%, we have destroyed billions of sources to convert that CO2. But it is still a fairly small amount, specially being 95% of the greenhouse effect is from water, 75% water vapor, 20% clouds. The rest comes from carbon dioxide, nitrous oxide, methane, ozone and miscellaneous other "minor greenhouse gases." Extreme global warming advocates claim that we cause up to 25 % of these miscellaneous gases. Even on an extreme we are only a cause for 2.5% of the greenhouse effect. So statistically if the greenhouse effect raises temperature by 1C over a period of time, the inducing of humans increase it to 1.025C over said period of time. The problem is that climate and statistics do not always go hand in hand. One scientist I've researched created a model with a 98% accuracy, and it indicates a ridiculous result, that not many climatologist on either side will uphold. Climatology is not math, so statistics don't often hold absolute meaning. Ultimately we cannot predict our climate. We can argue back and forth all day with statistics, and we could both wake up tomorrow and be completely wrong.

For the first graph I posted the wrong graph, I have a similar graph on my work computer showing through 2002, thank you for pointing out that error. Now I ask you to research just how much CO2 human induce into the atmosphere. Humans contribute 6 billion tons of CO2 to the "greenhouse effect". Nature contributes 189 billion tons. We only contribute just over 3% of the CO2 in the greenhouse effect. And throughout nature temperature and CO2 correspond. If there is high temperature, there is high CO2 levels. This is directly proportionate and has been proven through ice core samples. And my graphs go to show that there have been drastic temperature changes millions of years ago, many similar to the changes we have now, as shown in global3. Millions of years before the industrial revolution. What also isn't accounted for in the studies is that we have destroyed billions of trees in the span of the industrial revolution. Now there is less absorption by natural means of CO2. That is a direct human problem. As for the water level raising, we have had little to no effect over that over the past 18000 years. I am not denying global warming. It is happening, and I am !@#$%^&*ured we will be in an ice age before we have to worry about the weather being too hot. I argue the extent of anthropogenic causes today. I support helping lower emissions. I support preserving the forests. I do not support the idea that the only reason why the climate is drastically raising is because of humans, when in fact there have been many significant changes similar or greater than this in the history of our planet. The inducing of 3% more CO2, which of course did not start that way, it was much less, over the last century could not cause the drastic increase we are seeing now. The ocean ridges have shifted and moved the current towards Antarctica. With warmer water flowing the ice melts faster. With less ice that helps global warming. There are the astrological cycles and much much more. I am not saying that humans have not played a part, a small part on a grand scale, but I refuse to stand by as scientists begging for grant money claim that the only reason the climate is changing so drastically is because of humans. I would post more about the degree of global warming and the other greenhouse gases but no one would really want to read a 10 page long forum post.

Obviously you have not done your home work you would know that that is wrong. First of in the holocene maximum we had higher temperatures. And when you deal with climate, you don't deal with centuries. As we just came out of the "little Ice age" before coming into the "industrial warming age" Also note that his models only represent a closed time period from 1860 (sometimes 1880) to present. http://www.17thparallel.com/vegita/global4.gif http://www.17thparallel.com/vegita/global1.jpg http://www.17thparallel.com/vegita/global2.jpg http://www.17thparallel.com/vegita/global3.gif Just a few things if you look past a millennium. Al Gore has also refused all requests for a head on head debate with all scientists, economists, and policy experts. And to be hypocritical, his house in Tennessee user 20 times the energy of the average home.

If you had investigated the free account you'd notice: Interest 1.00 hours with 0.50% Interest

I never said I disputed the fact that the global climate is getting warmer. Through extensive research I don't believe the published severity of the anthropogenic effects on the climate change.

He doesn't cheat, I gave him 2000k troops.

nope, you don't The super savings account is awful. Say you put 1,000,000 in there to start. After 2 days you have 1,250,000. After 4 days you have 1,562,500. After 6 days you have 1,953,125. After 2 weeks your 1 mil will only turn into 4,768,372. After 4 weeks your 1 mil will only turn into 22,737,368. With this UP you will be getting that 22 mil an hour by two weeks time. This account is useless unless you already have a god awful amount of money to put into the account. Which you can only get if you have a really high UP. And on top of that it costs you 20k to make, and you have fees. If you use the interest in the free one: Start 1,000,000. after 2 days you have 1,270,489. After 4 days you have 1,614,142. After 6 days you have: 2,050,750. After 2 weeks your 1 mil will be: 5,343,142. After 2 weeks your 1 mil will be: 28,549,171 This system was very poorly created. You make very little money off of either, and actually make more money off of the free account. Taken directly from my other post. Do the math before you try to tell me I am wrong.

lol attraction I pointed it all out for you in a different post. You make more money in the regular account than you do in the super saver.

I agree that I don't believe people are born gay. I believe people become gay due to envirionmental factors. Possibly having a low testosterone count might make them more susceptible to having homosexual tendencies, but I don't think you can blame it on someone being gay. People love to make excuses for their actions instead of taking responsibility.

Then vote for the republicans. Obama is the only democratic candidate I would vote for. And after researching it a lot, I don't believe the hype going on about the anthropogenic effects on climate. Gore knows he'd get the vote of the environmentalists and would lose the votes of the skeptics.

17th died for a lot of reasons. The nail in the coffin was complex. 17th was on a decline, and complex put it in it's grave. Not saying that the idea of complex is good or bad, but it was never meant for the 17th, it was meant to be its own zone.

If clinton becomes president I'm moving to the UK.

Not really useful against either.

Get virtual pc.

Yeah laugh at the game elders part. There are a lot of players who have played for just as long, if not longer then a lot of members on the council, and have definately been more active, that would be better suited to make these decisions. Half of the people on the council don't even know whats going on in their own zone let alone whats going on in other zones and the community as a whole.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/108896180.png one of my work pc's

Plat would be the best candidate.

And you still can't deny that the free savings earns you more money than the savings you have to pay for and has fees.

it is still veritably useless. If you say in 2 weeks manage to get 100,000,000 in the bank. In two days you will have 125,000,000 Where say from ail's stats, he will have approx 13,000 by then. Which means he gets 1,950,000 an hour + 100 troops per 3 hours. In a two day period he will make 93,840,000. Note he makes almost 4 times as much as his bank account will produce. Now if you happen to get up to 1,000,000,000 now you will get 1,250,000,000. And in order to get that much money in the bank, you either have to not buy anything at all, or end up with WAY more money than you can spend. There is no use for the bank system as it is other than to keep your money safe.

107 Attack specialists 110 Defence specialists 371 Untrained soldiers Attack Bonus: 26,189 Defense Bonus: 30,477 Spy Bonus: 252 Sentry Bonus: 1,015 Covert Skill: 3 Covert Operatives: 66 Siege Technology: Team Attack Turns: 24 Unit Production: 60 97,828 points Would you like me to list your weapons too?

The super savings account is awful. Say you put 1,000,000 in there to start. After 2 days you have 1,250,000. After 4 days you have 1,562,500. After 6 days you have 1,953,125. After 2 weeks your 1 mil will only turn into 4,768,372. After 4 weeks your 1 mil will only turn into 22,737,368. With this UP you will be getting that 22 mil an hour by two weeks time. This account is useless unless you already have a god awful amount of money to put into the account. Which you can only get if you have a really high UP. And on top of that it costs you 20k to make, and you have fees. If you use the interest in the free one: Start 1,000,000. after 2 days you have 1,270,489. After 4 days you have 1,614,142. After 6 days you have: 2,050,750. After 2 weeks your 1 mil will be: 5,343,142. After 2 weeks your 1 mil will be: 28,549,171 This system was very poorly created. You make very little money off of either, and actually make more money off of the free account.

I'd like to find out your sources because the reports I've investigated show that in countries that abolished capitol punishment, the violent crime rate has been on a steady increase.

The only benefits you gain from marriage is for tax purposes. And they are neglegable if both parties are working.

Wal-Mart is a good place to work at. I Managed a retail store for 4 years while I was in college, and I was making over 40k a year by the end of college, but that is because I wouldn't take the bull!@#$%^&*, and I was a great store manager. But basically retail is not where you want to be unless you are a teenager and need some money, or you are putting yourself through college. Except if you really like working with customers and in the retail industry as a whole. Then be sure you know what you are worth to a company. Edit: No offense intended to anyone who is currently working in retail, or who enjoys their retail job.