Soon I'll set a time limit to some things that need to change (and have been needed to change for years) and if they're not changed then I sure as poop won't be playing SubSpace any longer. Äh cräp, now people probably don't want anything changed so they'll see me gone http://www.hitemup.com/forum/images/smilies/tongue.gif Seriously though, wtf. Gah After playing in this zone for so long, watching every single thing change from amazing to HORRIBLE, and again and again explaining what Upper Staff did wrong, and after proving to them what the players really want (or wanted, since most of them are gone now) you get a "little" hopeless and tired of it, heh. There's no doubt that they don't know what 17th really was about. But oh well, wrong people were giving the power to lead this zone, and there's no doubt that anyone who knows anything about what has happened in 17th over the years can deny that, NONE. To me, 17th is in a coma, and the doctors are AWOL.