hey mad. i would suggest that you quote from sources... showing how they contradict each other. first of all, perhaps if you noticed, "political correctness" and the Bible do not mix. In fact, the government is constantly placing borders around it's principles. Want proof? Look at the new version of the Bible.. called the "Politically Correct Bible" or something like that. IF you guys have NO IDEA where you're getting your sources from, please use an "I THINK this..." rather than "IT IS". It doesn't hurt to add an extra two words which can seriously change your argument does it? it just tells us that you are not 100% sure or backed up when you use "I think" separation of church and state? tell me where it states in ANYWHERE especially in the cons!@#$%^&*ution that it advocates separation of church and state... "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..." <--- first amendment. it only states that the Congress shall make no laws that restrict or do ANYTHING to religion.. nothing. zip. it's illegal. We are constantly seeing Christians being persecuted in the states for just doing things like praying. Want proof? Works Cited: Coulter, Ann. “Can U.S. schools survive liberalism?†National Post. 26 September 2003: A14. From the Ray Moore case, I can quote from the article that the act of removing the monument was an "act of judicial tyranny." Works Cited: Chief justice vows to fight monument removal order. 22 Aug. 2003. Montgomery Alabama. 29 Oct. 2003 . The states are constantly doing illegal stuff, yet they wish to impose their own "freedom" onto nations such as Iraq. Well it's true to some extent. BUT look at religious persecution. In a deeper look, take a look at the lumber issue with Canada. According to NAFTA, they are NOT allowed to place tarriffs on the lumber coming into the states. But they do it. They have done it in the past and they have now just completely ignored the world court. In the past rulings (i think around 4 times), the USA have been guilty. Now they do it again. Well the Americans now are making lots of money.. Cases like these takes 3 years for the World Court to slap the Americans on the wrists for saying, "You're WRong." and when they do get slap, what is their punishment? nothing. they are the world biggest power. who can punish them? Oh how smart the Americans are. They know that it takes 3 years just to get a lumber company here in canada out of business.. and it takes 3 years for this to be solved in the World Court. Right now, a bunch of lumber companies are closing down because of the STates.. Well that's my 2 cents. sorry for the digression.. laterz