VERY FIRST I'd like to point out that I DO in fact know this topic is weeks old, but I haven't checked the forums in weeks due to some bs going on in my life, and the fact that the forum is often dead anyway. So with that being said...... ----------- First off, Cord and I never bribed anyone. The people we hired were hired because they fit the position that needed to be filled at the time. Secondly, just because you don't know these people doesn't mean much. I may have hired guys from TW and other zones, but they were developers that I had previously worked with on other projects outside 17th. I never blindly hired anyone. Creemy was one of the guys from TW that I knew beforehand, and he wanted to try out being an ER instead of a developer. Interesting. Delic predicted the future. And, Dooshberry, MG doesn't want you so neither do I. Perhaps I am misreading this, and if so, ignore this response. But if it is meant to say that Delic correctly predicted that I hate Mike, both Xterr and Delic are very wrong. I had much respect for Mike and I learned a lot from him about managing zones and such. ----------- Now, I want to let Delic know that if he needs my !@#$%^&*istance at some point, I'd gladly offer what I can. Sure, I've done some controversial things in and to the zone, but that doesn't shadow the fact that I am still a veteran developer in the game, even though I rarely play now. I left 17th in the first place because time was about to become an issue (later on it turned out that it was not, but by then it was too late to go back, hence, complex). I never gave up on the zone because it was failing. Fact of the matter is, under my watch, 17th was brought back from a 0-3 populated zone to a 20-30 populated zone running a small singles league for 10+ weeks. Things happen though, and so now I'm here hoping to see Delic become the saviour of 17th. There's no sarcasm in this. The only problem I'll have with it is all the posts we will see of Delic saying "I WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG I TOLD YOU SOLD NA NA NA NOOB HA" and such. But of course, as you are Head Sysop, I would expect there to be a degree of professionalism, at least. Anyway, you probably have my msn, even if you are unaware that it is me, so if you need something, I can try to help out (I do pretty much everything but bots and ASSS stuff).