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See what happened to HS? 17th is next if something isn't done soon

How much did Mike pay you to say that? 17th needs something different. Something that's fun no matter how many people they have. The problem with 17th at the moment is that there is nothing to do!! People enter they will get bored because theres nothing to do and leave. 17th used to own when it had decent population but you got to let go of them days because theyre not coming back. This is an excellent chance to start up something new and exciting rather than dragging a corpse along the ground behind you. But before it goes through the idiot group to see if they will put it up as a map/lvz/sets etc.. always think about what the players would want. I don't think to myself 'this should be like this because i like that'. I plan my moves out which is what Mike should do. Either way you got a choice. You can refurbish what you already have OR you can create something entireley new and even give the zone a new name. As I stated above just think about what the players would want. Vets and noobs, league players and pubbers. It really is that simple to create something good. I'm not saying thats all you have to do because there is alot more work to it than that. IF your choosing to refurbish the zone then scrap the balling idea... it's fun for maybe 30 minutes when theres 20 people per team but other than that its !@#$%^&*. If help is needed with sets/maps then I can help. I'm already half way through making a whole new shipset that 17th could use. Anyone got any ideas of gameplay? Or types of shipsets? Give them in detail. Example - Leviathan should be a defense unit, heavy bombs, lots of energy, fast recharge but very slow. Half of this post probably dont make any sense because im tired as !@#$%^&*.

Yeah I keep dying on the first few enemies

Hey, capitalist, since when do you care about 17th? As I remember you banned everyone, including me. Best part of 17th Delic for Hsysop!!

Put hyperspace in a sub arena so at least they can play it.

If tex became staff again I think people would go out of their way to hack the zone This is the death of 17th. No active staffers and no zone owner to recruit more staff. Farewell 17th.

Looks really cool, i'll try it out later.

Sounds like a reality tv show

you must have been bored i suck at tetris

I know this probably isn't the answer but I used to get that alot. I had it happen to me twice, one is from where my hard drive messed up somehow and had to be replaced. The other time was when my USB ports messed up. Might want to check them just incase.

Give delic hsysop, no one else is going to do anything with the zone. look at the poll results

!@#$%^&* happens :/

17th - In war no one is truely safe. 17th forum - We do the exact opposite of the results of the polls.

It's Mikes only by name. Even Ice owns more of 17th than Mike.

Mike doesn't and never has contributed to the zone, I remember some of 17ths original Sysops telling me. I can't say that he hasn't contributed anything because I don't have that knowledge but I can say that Mike doesn't do anything now. He probably doesn't even know what goes on inside 17th unless someone tells him.

I rarely enter 17th anymore. ur goin 2 talk like dis all da tym?

That would be fun for about 15 mins. Maybe that could be an event.

Great new wise words from the new hsysop. Good luck trying AGAIN. he'll quit within a few hours this time instead of a few days. Perfect example of how staff do the opposite of what people want them to do.

If 17th was to die peacefully then it should have been shut down over a year ago.

Link Removed. Even though it's a porn thread. :/ Sorry PoLiX

!@#$%^&* noob laming asteroids spawning me! dirl!!

I've rung the isp and they have checked with the exchange and said theres nothing wrong. They can't see any packetloss or any reason for having a high ping which is why im unsure of what it could be. Could it be: 1. The ISP is bull!@#$%^&*ting and something is wrong but they can't detect it. 2. The server is messing up (which would explain why alot of people are plossing) 3. I have something on my PC that I can't see thaqt's making me lag. I normally ping jolt.co.uk in command prompt and I usually get 10-15 ping but for some reason im getting 30 ping. Which is another reason of why i'm confused.

What's the point in making new events when you don't have the people to play them? Just doesb't make any sense to me...

Nothing bad can be done because 17th is at its lowest ever. !@#$%^&* it would be even be cool if the zone was shut down. Delic knows alot of people who play in lots of zones, all he has to do is to convince them to come and play and 17th will be better than it has been for ages. Also the power won't change his at!@#$%^&*ude or personality like it has with some people.

Last couple of weeks i've been getting high S2C. My ping is as low as what it usually is. I can't figure out what's causing the ploss, I have an 8mb connection, I have no other programs running. My internet runs through a router but the other PC that it connects to is never on. I'm from the UK. I've been hearing alot of lag problems from the people who live in the EU, maybe something is wrong with the server or something? I ran a cycle for ya Tracing Zone: SSCU Trench Wars IP Address: 66.36.241.110 Hop IP Address Host Name Loss(%) Min/Avg/Max Ping --- --------------- -------------------------------- ------- ---------------- 1 192.168.0.1 0.0 0 0 0 2 194.159.161.35 anchor-hg-4-l100.router.demon.ne 5.3 20 20 20 3 194.159.161.129 anchor-access-3-v154.router.demo 6.8 20 20 20 4 194.159.161.78 anchor-inside-4-g2-0-2.router.de 4.3 20 20 140 5 194.159.161.35 anchor-hg-4-l100.router.demon.ne 3.2 20 20 110 6 66.36.224.209 nyc1.ge7-0.core2.dca2.hopone.net 99.6 110 110 110 7 66.36.224.244 vl3.msfc1.distb1.dca2.hopone.net 99.6 110 110 110 8 66.36.241.110 sls-cb9p7.dca2.superb.net 3.9 110 110 110 Cycles: 278 Any help? Many thanks -Lucozade