The Apache

!@#$%^&* syrus, you beat me to it.

that's the thing, i never tried to argue about how to kill the zone... lol, i'm saying and pointing out what will probably be it's downfall. of course, i know i can't do anything about it accept voice my opinions but instead i get called a suck up to the new, arrogant and ignorant. l.c., as i've said many times, hasn't made any significant changes to the zone and just reverted back to the olden years of dbz and i just don't want to see a zone i used to play a lot die in the hands of this !@#$%^&*. i'm on his perm-ignore list now, i made some opinions in a nice manner which some people backed me up on but instead there was no reply from l.c. and for the record: i was never an owner - just did developing. i'd love to help develop the zone right now, but i'm not going to work with L.C. because of his sheer big-headedness. i can co-operate with the people i don't like sometimes, but not with l.c.

i never put my statements and arguments up to gain popularity, this has never in my eyes been a popularity contest or a sides-taking topic. thing is l.c., you are so narrow-minded to take in everyone else's big thoughts about the zone, that you actually hide yourself behind your !@#$%^&* work and pratically put your middle finger up at me and ignore everyone else around you. you try and take the maturity step to get away from it all - when you're just proving to me how ignorant you really are. and no, it was "already long dead" after i quit. btw, do you know the reason why i quit? i quit BECAUSE OF YOU you stupid !@#$%^&*ing moron. your arrogance led me to quit staffing there because you thought you were better than everybody else and it pissed me off quite alot. furthermore, rjb gained dbz population dumb!@#$%^&*. way to prove yourself wrong. proper, fashionable and appropriate way? lol, again, another big "!@#$%^&* you" to the people who made dbz great. l.c., everyone who made dbz what it was BEFORE you worked on it made dbz dbz. and so far, none of your attempts have made it any better whatso!@#$%^&*ingever. i care because i don't want to see such a great zone fall down by the hands of some arrogant idiot who thinks the final solution to everything would be to revert everything. r.i.p ssci dbz.

Hi, for the record there is no "hate for" L.C on my end. Furthermore L.C's revival attempt failing would not result in the zone being shutdown. I have been hosting the zone since 2003 and have been a player of the zone since the SSCU days. So don’t worry or start any more stupid rumors, thanks in advance. Well I can't trust you Death+. After that last rampage you went on over me, I don't think I'll ever be working with you again. I would release logs, but I'm afraid if I did... . I'm sure that one day I will reach a certain breaking point on this where I will release these logs. They probably won't do any damage to your reputation (you've got nothing to fear, then), but I don't think you would mind if I did. And, I don't want to go on this topic any longer, and wish there would be an ignore feature on these forums. :\ I would also like to mention that when lp_street_soldier+ (aka The Apache) was a sysop in the zone, previously involved in making the 8th-Year Public Map for Dragonball Z, he had pretty much outright burned, evaded, and slapkicked (without the kicking) anyone who criticized his work. I did not criticize his work (and by this I mean comments, suggestions, "bad" parts or areas that need improvement, fixing, etc) directly, but through the opinions of other players and other staff members. Infact I only did half the talking, because another staffer (Ir0n EyEz?) was with me to give him the critiques and criticisms. That's why I said you were arrogant and ignorant. Seemingly just because I was hired as a staff member in the zone and quickly promoted to a Sysop had apparently ticked you off to such a degree, that even a large part of the staffing teams at the zone at the time had started disliking you for exactly this kind of behavior, tone, and at!@#$%^&*ude you present. (Edit) And out of sheer curiousity, I am pretty sure you have heard people speak out along the phrases (or topic) of "sysops ended up destroying the zone over time." If you haven't, then nevermind. I don't want your thoughts. Either you aren't around the players enough, aren't friendly enough for some to speak of things that you don't like (simply because they're afraid of how you would react unpleasantly), or some other reason that I can't put my finger on. If you did, what do you think about this? For months Dragonball Z was dead because nobody touched it, and partly because of the way it was developed. Nobody in particular is to blame for that (I take some blame and responsibility for serving my time as a Sysop under the Pre-Relaunch / Pre-RP settings, map, etc.). You know, it is very possible for a group of individuals to actually think they are taking the zone in the right path, when it could be a wrong one. Those settings were terrible (even with my suggestions to try to spice them up). You had visitors and newbies coming in and out because they always got whiped out within the first 5 to 15 minutes. Never or rarily came back again. Those settings were pretty much expert dueling settings where there might be really one way to even kill someone (and that would be to let your guard down and be laced). Now taking the last sentence I had just written, what do you think of http://forums.sscentral.com/index.php?showtopic=13113 ? Please tell us. Because nobody dared touch or change anything in Dragonball Z (in my opinion, simply because of those pitiful "expert duel" settings and such depressing, boring and dark map), and Rick James had flooded the zone from 1, to 3, to 6 or 7 bots at one time, what is your problem with change? The zone is actually getting more support from and by players than it did before the relaunch. There is only a very small handful of people that even against all this change (even though there might just be a few speckles of a disagreement or two between all other players; it isn't anything major or something that requires a lot of concentration on), you being on that side. I've only encountered about 4 to 5 people out of maybe 50+ people that were like you The Apache. -_- Before the relaunch, apparently many of the Dragonball Z players (because of the zone's ) had either quit or left Subspace, or moved to other zones. I don't know which reason is bigger than the other, but I have found several players in Fusion, Halo, T3G, Trench Wars, etc. Try to find them (yay! scavenger hunting time) and ask them why they play there rather than Dragonball Z. If you do happen to do this, please post their comments. I myself might aswell give an attempt to see why. InamotO has apparently moved on from Dragonball Z or something, even though he pops in every once in a while...moved onto being a developer/sysop/owner of another zone. Asked me for a few pointers once or twice. I have taken all your suggestions into thought, thanks. If you want to help me out, one thing you can do is by trying to convince one of the programmers here to follow up on my plugin request HERE. and you've completely went off-topic, i was talking about the zone development, moron. anyway, while you're off-topic, i guess i'll reply to it. when i was the sysop there, and when i made the map, i did not do any of the things you claimed me to do at all. if you have proof of this, then i'd like you to very much share it with me and everyone else. l.c., you are trying to make it look so personal when you're talking about me, but it really doesn't offend me. i never said my work was gold, i never claimed it to be anything better than anyone else's, so don't make foolish !@#$%^&*umptions that i'm ignorant and arrogant. also l.c., you were hardly even about when my work was up so you might as well shut up on that point. how could you of even seen my work? you were using subchat over 3 quarters of the time at that particular point in the past. and please, don't bring up these staff names and facts/points that you can't even back up okay? i never said it was because you were hired, then given sysop position. you are once again, making foolish !@#$%^&*umptions. i'm merely pissed off at the fact you're so !@#$%^&*ing proud of reverting the zone back to a state where it doesn't even LOOK related to dbz now. how long did you spend researching? a long time right? and you came out with this project? what the !@#$%^&*, take a look at the new london olympic 2012 logo... spent so long researching and came out with utter crap. why are you still bringing up my past? that was a long time ago, i haven't wanted to be staff since i left which was also, a long time ago. none of your jibber-jabber relates to the point i'm trying to make. you just keep on changing the subject on to me and bringing up my bad past. and by the way, since we're on the subject of who likes who, and who doesn't - you were disliked (and still are) when you came back to ss with your arrogance. you're not so ignorant, but you are definetely arrogant and still are. okay, so what, you think you're taking the right path by: - trying so hard to make the zone look professional - removing lvz - removing awesome bot features - archiving old maps - making a new website - making a new news.txt ? and no, rjb did an awesome job with the bots, and certainly made them better than you ever could've done. alot of people approved of them too, especially the AI bots. of course, you don't like to see a zone like that now would you l.c.? also, where are you getting your facts and figures from? i'm one of those people, l.c., who like to see GOOD changes and NEW changes. how many times has the zone reverted back to old stuff? and how many times has it worked? hardly any. i don't want to see the zone fall to a point where you finally realise your changes suck to the zone. once again, you ignore my point where: making a zone look professional doesn't increase population and help gameplay. standard, of course, you'll come back with some reply saying "no i'm not!" or "god you're so arrogant and ignorant apache/lp" l.c., you don't even play the !@#$%^&*ing SUPER zone, you play SVS zones and you prefer them. make dbz less svs setting-like kthx. it's supposed to be a super zone, it's supposed to be somewhat hard to kill. and next time, actually respond to my comments on-topic, i'd rather you didn't bring up my irrelevant past. it's better to stay on-topic, no? @d+: i heard otherwise. but sorry for !@#$%^&*uming you might shut the zone down. (which is why i put probably...)

this is the result of mixing a pro-wrestler with a wife and son.

sigh, terrorism in scotland?! two men, who were on fire, drove a car that was on fire with was loaded with petrol, gas cylinders + nails. lucky none of them really exploded, apart from people hearing a few bangs and that's all. i never actually thought it would happen all the way up there in scotland, but either way it was successfully dealt with by the police. so now, the terror levels in UK are on critical and the security is being stepped up in every airport in the UK, and even in america. source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/6257194.stm your thoughts?

i'd be quick about it too. death+ already hates L.C., and is probably very close to kicking dbz off ssi. if you manage to get dbz kicked off, l.c. will just be remembered as that one who spent months researching only to just get dbz shut down. oh, i got called ignorant and arrogant while telling all of this to L.C. yesterday in the zone. my thoughts are apperently "worthless" to dbz. then again, i did ask him how i was being ignorant/arrogant but i got no reply. also, i'm one of those "suck up" people who are concentrated on new stuff or something along those lines. how does he have the nerve to basically say i'm too concentrated on new developed stuff? all he did was revert back to the old !@#$%^&* where all the bugs lie. months were spent trying to flatten the bugs that existed in the current settings and map we have now by several sysops, so this whole !@#$%^&*ty project is just a big "!@#$%^&* you" to the people who made it better. thanks l.c.

LOL@the video.

sorry for the bump, but i've got to say now after just checking out DBZ: l.c., you spent a long time research and put alot of effort into it... but all you've done is revert to old bases/maps, and older crappier settings. the only thing i like that you've done is change the news.txt, but even that gets sickly and stupid. half of it won't even get read by people; waste of time. to be honest, you've made some changes L.C., which you think is a great deal when in actual fact all you created was a news file, website and some other small tasks - all of which the zone doesn't need to gain population. you didn't revive dbz at all, you just rolled the zone back into a world of bugs and errors. you, claiming to be some kinda dbz veteran should surely know what bugs existed when the zone was in this state? and just what !@#$%^&* happened to the awesome plugins that made DBZ.. well, DBZ?! what happened to the specially made dragon-radar (props catid ) that made life easier and got nice big flag games going? what happened to the registered freqs plugin? god!@#$%^&* you l.c., that plugin stopped alot of arguments and stopped confusion over freqs - if it was registered, they owned, no one could have it. what the !@#$%^&* was so lame about it? do you want there to be confusion and arguments instead? idiot. !@#$%^&*, what even happened to the lvz DRAGONBALL Z THEMED? you've taken all the life out of dbz to be honest, you aren't fit to run that zone. you're soooo concentrated on trying to make the zone look neat and make it look soooo professional when you've actually forgotten how to revive a !@#$%^&*ing zone L.C. you aren't fit to run anything related to the dbz zone. give up.

god L.C. you're a nerd... too right, the "noobies" owned you really.

i don't believe in christ for the following reasons: * how could one guy create everything? * how do you know this !@#$%^&*ing bible wasn't written up by some !@#$%^&*ing tosspot homo? * there's too much science behind why the world exists and how it came than your god/jesus nonsense. science rules all in this debate. there's no evidence that anything in the bible actually happened. i don't follow books.

i didn't even crack a smile... it was so unfunny tbh.

This.

so no one recorded it?

morphing sun++ <3 get in touch with morph, he's got ALOT of old maps (i only know since i used to have them) - it's worth it.

glad you are all ok guys. now for a random piece of text: isn't it odd how chambahs mentioned www.pwned.nl, then it turns out to be an asian guy who turned out to be korean and middle aged? i dunno, i just laughed at that... lol.

grav, this is exactly why you are so unfit for a SSC-NetOp position. you're such a miserable fool always looking to put someone or something down. jeez, go have a !@#$%^&* or something.

hey, maybe your parents will buy you clothes that actually don't look stupid on you!

chambahs, shut up you small skinny re!@#$%^&* who wears ridiculously baggy clothes and can't sell weed around your rich estate. anyways falco, DBZ is going under development right now, and the people developing it are keeping it highly secret and not showing anyone !@#$%^&* sooo... yeah, until that day comes DBZ will be dead. i haven't been playing continuum properly for a long time, so i don't know where the old people are.

why does anyone feel the need to swear in the first place? just to look cool or something? in a zone?

my criticism was kinda constructive but whatever, like i care. his shirts suck, gg. ESPECIALLY that graffiti one. "king of stylin"? what the !@#$%^&* is that? don't come talking to me over the internet as if you're some "bad-boy" ok? talk normally for !@#$%^&*sake. actually, i happen to be wearing a lacoste jumper, rocawear flatpeak, and a pair of jeans... you're probably sat there wearing nothing, having a good old !@#$%^&* over chambahs and his !@#$%^&* shop.

ah you know them? please link me to those many people. any of us can hate on it and give criticism or whatever man, stop licking his !@#$%^&*.

amen to syrusmx... lol. i don't like the lettering on those shirts. please, do original designs instead of flowing with wanna-be gangster clothing. seriously, i bet you'd do so much better if you thought of original designs instead of this crap. i've already seen too many wiggers and !@#$%^&*s in these kind of shirts, i don't want to see anymore. (mind you, these kind of shirts in England get sold on the market... not in shops)

i still can't see anyone good for the job tbh. http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/6202/serioustu8.jpg

ROFL hahahahahahahahaha.