deadonarrival

Faster ships (no thanks!) or a smaller map still. Fact is it's action that keeps people playing. We need a map that can be played by 4 people and be fun. 17th doesn't get the 30+ pop it used to - but this map is still comparable size. So yeah, my opinion is make the map smaller and - dare I say it - lose the 17th "Centre" for the sake of some smaller bases closer to the middle of the map. Bases = fights for things = fun. Open area between them allows for dogfighting.

About time I played some more subspace. Right, who's up for 8pm GMT, 17th pub, every sunday you can manage?

lies Seriously, do you know anything? Or are you just trying to sound funny using phrases such as "lies" "pwnt" and "lol" because you've seen someone else use them. You know jack all about.... well pretty much anything. I barely know you and already you've annoyed the !@#$%^&* out of me, why don't you try making a constructive post instead of just posting these random words you've picked up when they don't make sense. And delic - pm me your msn and I'll let you know when I can work on the site, just got a couple of things to get out of the way first of all. Ye gods he's 22 - what the !@#$%^&*'s happening to the world? Although I guess the "New York" might explain it ¬_¬

Pwned? Nobody got pwned... re!@#$%^&*. Ugh, the reASSS who p!@#$%^&* for staff these days. *Feels old*

And who the !@#$%^&* are you? The grammar police?

You knew jack all... you made it in dreamweaver, !@#$%^&*ed it up, added a few scripts (available freely on the internet) and left... And the squad advertisements had a backdoor/exploit, someone wiped the database table for it and it !@#$%^&*ed up, we removed it because at the time I was a complete newbie who didn't know how to fix it. Question: can a site that's been there for 2/3 years wait another few months for a redesign? Because if nothing's happening with it I'd be willing to do it when some of my other projects are finished... and it'll be a proper c-CMS, something powerful enough to do the job but easy enough to update for anyone to do it. Opinion?

Okay, 17th = nearly dead. AND WE'RE LETTING IT DIE! Ugh, we don't even have the hoardes of AFK'ers anymore - nobody enters a zone with 1 person in it... at least if you have 10 afk'ers they might come in long enough to dual someone, then it becomes three and grows. How about instead of sitting somewhere else complaining about where your beloved 17th of old went, you go back to the zones list (or even open the game) and GO INTO 17th! Let it idle for a while why you do something else... if everyone did it, it'd be easy enough to get a game going. And who does this especially go out to? The ex-staffers. Yeah you probably fell out with someone at some point and got dissillusioned, but how about you go back to playing and enjoy the zone you loved for so long? I don't care who you are - if your client isnt in 17th for at least 22 hours a day I'm sending a goat to eat your genitals! Word

wtf, I just decided to go back on 17th for the first time in months and saw this. Stop pre-empting me you !@#$%^&*!

Delic for moderator! woop Need any help gimme a shout buddy jonathan6735@hotmail.com I'm not a fat lot of good - but why not give 17th one more chance? God knows you can hardly make it any worse...

TW has the most players because it's never !@#$%^&*ed about with - they leave it alone when it's working... 17th has/is failed and will fail for the same reason. Just because they use it doesnt make it amazing... and as for bots. 17th's biggest failing is that it's overly bot heavy... we don't need so many god!@#$%^&* bots.

This one time... in bandcamp... me and delic... Umms, nvm soz

no, hes on porno and is accidentaly bashing his keyboard... understandable

i never liked tex, he smells bad

thats a lie and you know it! your plotting a takeover with you, paine and the squirrels!

that was un-called for anyway, my avatar pwns yours

ctm's biggest disadvantages: the bugs and errors (general vulnerability) and it's not just your PC with all the new updates that wont run ctm right, i've tried with multiple installs/versions of win9x and XP, and rarely if ever is ctm bug-free for long

boo, mmav smells

it stung the next morning

shady muther!@#$%^&*ers? your what? 11 now? gtfo

the map is IMHO a little too big for the pop as for the ships, no specifics right now but i think there needs to be some form of pattern, each ship is good against 2, okay against 3 and bad against 2. that way if the enemy is using one or two ships a lot you can counter them

i vote we just stay as inactive as we are, then act superior to every other player in the zone my problem is complete lack of access to continuum. i'm aiming to be a lot more active on the forums now though (just finished a big website project, so i have a little more free time)

I want DKR to be the new OPD leader. (liven things up a bit :-) i garountee he ASSS at least one thing up once) <3

rhcpchick has tricked you, and has eaten your brains - you have now joined the shambling, grey-skinned legions of the undead, along with everyone else who has ever visited this page.

Personally i think the jav needs some changes, not sure how much yet. Why the jav? Because i think it's such a plain ship, theres nothing special about it, why all the fuss? Also we have seen this jav through almost all variations of the 17th parallel settings, all the other ships have seen fairly major changes, why not the jav? Anyway: what's your opinion? (This is an opinion poll, not a vote to decide if a change should be made, more to see what we all think)

nice drawing i think we need a series of maps put in pub over maybe a week, or in a seperate arena, we play them all and see what we like, make some modifications etc, pub map is good but it's getting old now