Actually halo was shutdown for afew hours for using other zones graphics without permission when it was hosted on SSCC. So if YOU "only knew the behind the scenes actions". Oh and for sscc, in my opinion sscc doesn't count part of Subspace... so who the !@#$%^&* cares what goes on there (excluding Desert Storm of course). ( cough vili move ds cough ) Halo is back on SSCI, and where it will stay for the years to come. DS runs just fine on SSCC never had any problems there.