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"All you javs" Eh.. come on :\ And I believe Vile's idea was to mix the two. I really doubt it would work.. The current Terrier is a totally different ship than the old one, it's a great ship though but you can't compare the two. So you'd lose one type of ship. We'll just have to wait and see, but I doubt anything will happen anytime soon because everyone who can change things are either too afraid to do it, or just don't know what to do, OR have their own little ideas on how to change 17th how only they want it to be.. so in the end I really don't see anyone doing anything for the better.

Ehh... I used to play pub more than most' date=' and I rarely used the Jav. I did sometimes when I felt like going on a suicide mission and invade a base solo. But no, you're wrong, not only the weasel and spider could kill the Jav in old pub. The Lanc could easily kill it as long as it didn't let it get close. The Levi could easily kill it with its fast bullets. The Terr could easily kill it with mines or bombs or even its bullets. The Shark well.. I guess this was the ship that had most trouble killing a Jav, atleast for me. But the Shark is meant as back-up unit.. It all depends on the situation and location. You had to know how to use the ships, you couldn't just go rushing a Jav, you had to focus on its weaknesses, just like every other ship. Sigh. No, what we have now is a handicapped shipset that requires much less skills than the original one. And we DO want it to require skills, correct? If we keep this newbie pub then newbies will only get as good as it lets them become, and that's not much. No' date=' you're wrong. I don't have to adapt to anything, because this shipset is 50 times easier than the one I learned to play in. All ships in the original shipset had a specific mission and were better than other ships depending on situation and location, they made sense. The current shipset was made by an amateur who did not think about everything you need to think about when creating a pub. But I don't expect anyone to understand.. So true, Zeke used to HATE players röfl. Instead of listening to them, he'd ingnore all of us who had something to say :\ It seems he really did everything he did just to have the honor :C ntfx: trust me, those new people would've been here no matter which shipset we had.

Hey, I'd rather have a shipset that could be called a 17th shipset that is original and requires skills, and gives the gameplay something that can only be found in 17th. That's what we used to have, not anymore. Many of the ships we had, you couldn't find in any other zone, not anymore. Too unbalanced? Heh, whatever you say. Each ship was better than another depending on the location, that's a good thing because then it forces the team to have teamplay. Now you don't need it as much. But believe whatever you want to believe hehhh

Of course you like 'em, but the old settings took more skills and were created by the creators of 17th. The ones you're playing with were created by a fool who wasn't thinking about the consequences of the changes he made, and when he was attacked for it, his excuses were "uh I'm only doing what I was told to do". Pfft, no love. But just so you know, what you're playing now definitely isn't 17th.

I have the solution to everyone's problemsss! Change to old pubbbbbbb

Well said. Hmmm well I hope we all learned something Dunno what else there is to say about this, I hope we can end it here <3

Very well replied DKR. I wonder how they will reply If they even bother, because I know pernille has read this, but doesn't seem to have anything to say. Bad, bad. Say something pernille

I've never even looked at mine or other's bty lols

Tell me why then

pernille: So that's why DaKillaRoach is suspended? Because he said something stupid? pern, trust me, you say stupid things every week (like when you said that 17th could still be North vs South even if we made a pubmap with just one base in north, wtf?) and I don't see anyone questioning your position as HEAD SYSOP for saying stupid things. Na, you guys really screwed yourselves by suspending DaKillaRoach, no matter what he said. What he said was his opinion, simply his opinion and views on 17th, which every single one of us should be allowed to have and express. It's obvious that DaKillaRoach is just like me: He just wants a better 17th, even if our views may be different, it doesn't matter. So answer me please, why did you suspend him? As I understand it, you said in chat "dkr", dkr replied "yes pern?" and you said "your such an idiot". This was what started that whole discussion. I believe you said that after reading the first reply he made to this thread. Now, if you want your own staffers to respect one another, how come you don't have to? You have to do it more than anyone since you're the Head Sysop. In reality, you suspended DaKillaRoach for his personality, and not because he did something wrong. This only shows your incompetence as Upper Staffers.

The map was meant to be hard to maneuver in. I'm not changing the tileset, that's unnecessary. And once a Jav or Weasel or even Spider gets close to a Terrier, it's rather easy to kill it. If I can do it, you can do it P.S. Make a Midget-Weasel-Stolen-Name-For-Event thread

If only he actually existed

Remember, I was describing how it should be, not how it is. And now DKR got suspended? Nice going. 5:ER>DaKillaRoach> I dunno anymore lol. I post my opinions upon the forum (which i'm allowed to do) and I get a suspension when pern takes it to chat DKR has stated more than once that this is just his opinion, I fail to see what he did that was worth a suspension. If pern didn't want the discussion in staff chat, THEN SHE NEVER SHOULD'VE STARTED IT.

IN 17TH PARALLEL EVERYTHING IS BIG AKAI EVEN THE LETTERS HEHEHEHE. But stop going off topic -*BAD WORD*-

Staffers should be people who like serving others. An ER's job is to host events, and do it correctly and smoothly. You can't say that you're the best ER in 17th at the moment because there's never enough people who play events to test the skills that should be required from a real ER. A Mod's job is to answer ALL ?command messages, not only ?help. That means that a Mod's job isn't just to sit in pub and watch people, they have to host too, and since they're Mods, they should know everything about how to host it good, so that they can teach the ERs. So I mean, we are hosts, we have guests, we have to work as a team to serve them in the best possible way. If you're on staff for the sole purpose to get respect then you will only get disrespected. Staff should be about giving players what they want. To do that, you need to know what they want. You need to BE a player and learn everything about the game. As I've said before, most staffers aren't what I would call "real players", they are people who got bored of the game and wanted to do something else in Continuum. But what are we going to do now? Staff is messed up, we're not working effective enough. We need to do something, we need to MOVEEEEEEEE we need some motivation, which most staffers do not have.

I'm surprised to see these wise words from someone who said that Adolf Hitler had a "good idea" (DKR). Temp, very nicely replied.

Bah you're still comparing us to other zones? Sigh. But yeah good luck with your latest plan

Okay the event is now public since the main testings are over. Thanks to those who participated. By the way, met, Bran Man and nez think they're unbeatable I need to find someone who would want to prac some to give them a good match

Ehh no offense but I don't see what's so good about 17th as a zone. I'm sure upper staff are trying to make it better, but they still have a lot to do. And pub is still messed up, and still boring in my eyes. Everyone runs around killing in the middle and a few are balling. I mean, even besides the shipset in pub, the arena settings are lämë and prevents good fights. Like when you get a warp green or full charge. It doesn't involve much skill really, unlike the old pub. And Leagues? Eh.. umm yeah not even going there.

Unlikely. It is. Besides, Zioneer is still my name..... my... imaginative last name!

ARE YOU TIM? THE TIM? FAITHER'S BROTHER? HI I'M 2ZI. AKA MAKAVELI. AKA ZIONEER. THIS IS MY LAST NAME CHANGE.

Lies Brän, it's koz you smell funny.

Vile, you're the one who made this change, correct? I don't understand what you were thinking o.O

Shipset is short for shipsettings.