Delic

Hm. Uh.. Yeah.. I guess.. hmph... grmbl.. äfk back. FU WTF afk

Program bots will common sense and they'll do it automatically $

next maybe you could make bots replace players $

(who will remain nameless for his/her own safety) decides to..

who can stay in this zone the longest, because understandably they really can't stand it anymore. Anyways Kyla wins and Cokey leaves because she has no patience and she's tookool4thisgame and umm... sigh I sukk at this!!!! lälälä

asked Telson aka Telsonella if (s)he'd be up for it, Telsonella happily agreed and asked where to begin..

suddenly, out of nowhere, bombs fall over the mountains and... the.. old wise man dies. Tempest gets away with slight head injury, but unfortunately he has forgotten the old wise man's answer Tempest sighs as he opens the cooler and stares at the two beers SUDDENLY HE GOT THE BEST IDEA HE EVER HAD...

seek help from an old wise man who lived in the mountains, for he couldn't find a solution to this problem

Thanks for the tip, Talion

which is irrelevant even it was true

Hi, I can bet I've played "your ship" more than you have, so please don't go there. The levi was supposed to be heavy artillery, its weakness was its slowness, and its strengt was its powerful bombs, IT MADE SENSEEE. Since when do you see heavy artillery getting away from fighter units, it wasn't SUPPOSED TOOOO BE ABLEEEE tooo doOoo thaat..

Rifleman.. you really haven't even argued with my points about the gameplay, you've just said that we should quit if we don't like it how it is, you can't argue my points about the ships. Anduril, you think the old levi sucks just because it requires more skill and therefore is harder to use. I always thought the old levi was more powerful. Faster bombs, more energy, faster bulltet rate (but requires more aim). Just face it, it's harder to get good at it than the newbie levi you're used to and that's why you don't like it. You can't argue that

So much ignorance :C

I said "most" ;P

As Rifleman said' date=' and I completely agree with him on this point.. Maybe' date=' but in the long run it would be for the best of the zone to have a gameplay that makes sense and not just a bunch of random things thrown in. http://www.ssforum.net/index.php?showtopic=5468

I'm sure you "care for the zone" (as you so caringly showed in your first post) what I meant with "unlike your upper staff" was that we were actual players' date=' unlike most of Upper Staff who can't really be considered players. Of course there were always whiners, I'm aware of that, they will always be here no matter what you do. But there's a difference between simple whiners and people who complain and explain why they are complaining. And I know what you're talking about about the old times being remembered as good times no matter what, but that really doesn't have anything to do with this, I just want a 17th that makes sense, as I showed in my pub thread, it doesn't right now.

Wow, why are you, a respected veteran and staff member of this community treating old school players like that when all they're doing is telling you why they can't play their home zone anymore? Just "quit"? Look, unlike your upper staff, we were actual players of this zone, we give a shït. So no, I'm not going to quit just because some people messed up my zone. I know you're tired of hearing this endless whining, but if you actually listened to us and did something about it, CHANCES ARE it will stop? Stop bïtching about our bïtching when you don't even care about what we're bïtching about, bïtch!

In the end it would be for the better of the zone because of everything that the old shipsetts bring to the gameplay. Sure it would take a few weeks for the newer players to get really good at them' date=' but after that it would be all good.

Wow, well said! Unexpected. This is just the result of a combination between awful shipsetts and another of Vile's ideas to "save pub". Well.. as I said in my thread, pub's been messed up for a long time, it lost all the action and sense that it used to have back when we were pub nubs. They threw in a bunch of random elements to the game to try to make it more 'exciting' probably, but without actually thinking about the consequences. So this is what we have today.

The bases are supposed to be different in Control (haven't made a new one yet, just different entrances to flag rooms). Since the map is all new to everyone, you won't get that funny feeling

Making a new thread since the other one went off-topic. I think pub is one big mess, and has been one big mess for too long. Why I think this is because, you got all these different elements, all these different types of games (king of the hill / bounty hunt, soccer, north base that nobody uses). You have warp greens, full charge greens, shield greens and bricks that people can use to brickwarp people too easily. All those things gives pub a very unbalanced gameplay. This is why 17th hasn't attracted as many (if any) players from other zones in a long time. I believe 17th lost its originality a long time ago. "Fast paced team turf style. Keep your own territory while at the same time fighting to take over your adversary's." North VS South, with ships that have their own special ways of fighting. Turf flagging only since flags mark the territory. No bountyrecord bot, no king of the hill, no soccer, no warp greens, no full charge greens, no shields greens. Just a bot that starts a 15 minute long fair, honest and much less lame match and shows the stats (kills deaths etc) of the match when the time is up (the team with most points wins). Warbird: Troop carrier. Javelin: Fighter craft. Spider: Ambush craft. Leviathan: Long range heavy bomber. Terrier: All-purpose support craft. Weasel: New fighter, different from the Javelin in several ways, but equal power-wise. Lancaster: Close range bomber. Shark: Cloakable fighter/bomber. Just like real units, these ships were specialized at fighting in their own way. This way, the team with most variety of ships is more likely to win a battle. All these ships' weaknesses and strengths depend on where they're located, (again, just like in a real war), they all have their own "missions", which is what would make pub much more exciting. Yes, this means oldsettings minus the weasel (setts in ?go control) + a new turf flagging map. I've been working on a map as many of you know, it's in ?go Control. The bases still need some improvements, but that's basically it. I know that a lot of people wouldn't agree with this, all of those who've played pub just to score a ball. But I truly believe 17th would be a lot more fun for more people and know for a fact that this would attract players from other zones if we turned it back to how it was made to be played, but in a improved way.

eat all the food (which was all he came for) and jumps in the limo, but little did he know, this limo was heading to..

Starts picking up bricks and throws them randomly He hits....

the zone kräshes! pernille> uhm Genius288> LOL Genius288> wtf Genius288> HACK Genius288> ROFLF kentbrockman> bummer Everyone gets disconnected and kent's äss is saved, for now. Vile apologizes for changing a sett that caused the krash and the game is on again, but unfortunately delic and kent ended up on the same team