Just wanted to say that I think 17th staff are fine. I have no reason to dislike anyone. Things are good as is. But people sure -*BAD WORD*- a lot. -*BAD WORD*-ing is never good... And how long has it been going on? (the -*BAD WORD*-ing that is). The zone seems to run smooth enough to me. I think the SubSpace community in general is pretty small, and not exactly growing. Oldschool 17th isn't going to ever, ever be back how it was. its like me wanting to go to DZA and fly in straight lines lobbing bombs at A1, or playing Speed, or Turf, or Chaos with its j12 bursts. Not going to happen again. Nope. Never. I think 17th has turned into a soap opera; ntfx cheated on vile with mike, so they had to write him out of the script, and pernille is the token female, and teen boy fantasy. dakillaroach is just the best, no I mean the best er, ever. no, no...no really! of course he's releasing his book compiled of his 466 forum posts about how 17th staff suck shortly. ...umm. what was my point? -nez/zettai