Remorse, i agree with you 100%. Well, i dont know about the paul stuff, but with the MJ vs AI, yes, i do. Me and losa have gone through this many, many times before. Her whole point is that there werent any good shooting guards around for MJ's compe!@#$%^&*ion. This is her thought, if t-mac, kobe, ect ect werent around, AI would look just as good as jordan did, maybe better. In a way, i see what she means, but also in another, i dont think that really qualifies it. If there was a brand new zone, you were the best dueler, you were 50-0 for duels, undefeated, and then you retired SS. You would be labeled the best dueler in that zone, in records. (In losa's opinion, this is Michael Jordan) 3 years later down the road, the zone is oh so popular, there are tons of great duelers, people who just sit and duel ALL DAY LONG, and you are one of them. Our of all the great duelers you beat most of them, and end up being 45-5 in the records. (AI) Now, if you were to take the first dueler's prime, and put it up to the 2nd dueler's prime, (MJ vs AI), the 2nd dueler would win, because he didnt own newbs to get to where he was at, he owned some of the best. Sure, the first dueler owned some of the best, but some of the best AT THE TIME which wasnt really that good. The zone's settings switched to being harder to master, map is different, and theres so many new people now laming the !@#$%^&* out of you, so everything is much harder now. Which is why the 2nd dueler would own the first dueler, purely because he has a higher level of skill. This is all what goes through losa's mind when it comes to MJ vs AI. Im not saying i agree, im just saying i understand. And i broke it into subspace situations for you guys to understand better, and to help me explain.