Guys here's the more important topic imo.First off "IF" hoch shuts the zone down,then he would no longer need any SSC Billing,Bang powers,ect.What we really need is someone on the SS council to weigh in on this,and tell us what has been discussed if anything.What hoch is really saying is that he is no longer willing to pay for the server which hosts DSB.If the SS Council wants hoch to take down DSB,which I find hard to believe,then they will probably not allow anyone to have SSC Billing and the use of Bang or whatever they supply the zones.If this is true then a clone of DSB will fail have no doubt.Having watched and been a part of 2 other good zones demise i have seen this happen before.Being sysop of WLI/USD Annihilation (zone ruined and smeared by Gemini Dream)and staff SMOD of T3 I can see whats coming.Although we are all pissed because Hoch announced the eventual closing of DSB,it really makes little sense to kill zones period in Subspace.To make a long story short,without SSC billing any resurrection of DSB is doomed.Personally the "speech" hoch wrote for zone closing was quite good.Hoch you wouldnt be a politician in the UK are you?However seems to me if you made the decision to close the zone then what are you waiting for?Seems more like a Ploy to get zone population back up.If so we can hardly blame him for that.However its my belief that people like the_snake are highly creative and there ideas should be given proper weight.Fly swatter has also came up with some good ideas.So if were not lacking in ideas and resources...what is lacking? P.S. Perm ban Falconeer from Trolling..tx GG