Silk

When i wrote that list of yes and no i was pointing out what crimes could be used with a gun and not saying you have to have a gun to commit those crimes. I was pointing out that those statistics you displayed Millennium Man, alot of them do not need a firearm to commit. You only displayed crime rate and not if guns were used in those crimes.

About the statistics too, i can see why people would say just legalize concealed weapons in DC if it works somewhere else. But look at all those crimes, how many of them require guns? Violent Crimes-Yes Property Crimes-No Murder-Yes Forcible Rape-Yes Robbery-Yes Aggravated assault-No Burglary-No Larceny Theft-No Motor Vehicle Theft-No Arson-No But there is alot of yes's and no's but fo you need a firearm for a violent crime, murder, robbery and rape? Any weapon can be used for those, a club. There needs to be statistics for what weapons were used at those crimes.

Um im poor, i got 5 dollars and i need to save that. Im happy with the food i bring into school

For the last time im talking about killing someone from the psychological point of view. Im not talking about using a gun and how to handle it. Im saying can you or anyone else take someones life! Go into the military and see how many recruits say theyve never handled a firearm, shot someone or killed a animal. Taking someones life is huge in peoples emotions. Whether they think it was a rush or they feel like a murderer which it is killing someone. This isnt a perfect world where if someone sees something bad going on they will step in. Do you really think if a crowd of people or just one for that matter sees a man gun down do you think he will step in even if he has a weapon? The killer already has his out.

Just go to any McDonalds, those hamburgers are hideous

or shredded beef

say -*BAD WORD*-o to arnold

they should use kangaroos for that

Statistics, yes. But all that is going on is that you are comparing two cities crime rates. If a criminal wanted to mug somebody, even if at one point the mugged faught back in the thugs past. Would the thug really go, well i did get maced in the eyes or what not. Do you think he will just not go ahead with it at all. People are greedy, if they see something thay want they will try to get it. All people have fear, yes i do believe you but people do get scared stiff at the point where they will do nothing at all. If i saw someones head blown clean off i would be scared stiff. If anything, fear would stop the casual to not do anything, adrenaline will cause the bystander to do something. But its hard to get pumpep up after seeing someone shot down in front of you. When i brought up the military i said and you said they train the person to kill. The average person doesnt get this kind of training. It either takes an extreme moment in the present or past to put someone at the point of they can take anothers life. The military simply brainwashes you to see the enemy as animals and it is ok to take them out.

Did you forget, in the other thread you yourself also threw out scenarios of a thug in the park deciding to do whatever to a passerby. There will be problems still, if not more. How are you so sure if you legalize gun ownership crime would drop? You have no proof of this, there goes your whole argument. If a thug sees a gun come out, whats to stop him from shooting the victim outright to save his hand? Why would he run, if he ran he would most likely get shot himself. I was talking about would a pedestrian use a gun after watching a violent crime of someone being taken down right in front of them? I said no, reason is the innocent bystander would piddle his pants unless like i said earlier had some kind of military training you could say. As in they would know what was going on in front of them and take action. Does the average civilian have this kind of mental training that is etched into a army recruits mind and take measures into their own hand?

But wasnt all your arguments based around people having guns and using them to their advantage. Now youre making strikes at me saying there is nothing preventing people from using other weapons. You and Akai, do you think i dont know this? Of course i do but this whole topic is about guns not knives, clubs or any other kind of blunt object.

Heres a scenario for you. A family of 5 are enjoying their day in the local mall shopping for school. little Sally wants to go into the toy stoy while little John and his friend Matt want to go into the arcade. So, Bob the dad decided to take the boys to the arcade and the Mom Sue goes to the toy store. While in the arcade, some 18 year old with a depressing past dies in Pac Man. So he takes out his 9mm and decided to pop little Johnny in the head. If guns are legalized so anyone can get them easy with no back ground checks and etc. Whats to stop this from happening? Another Scenario. A jogger is in the park taking his morning exercise route. So a thug behind a tree decided to have some fun and kill the next jogger. But there are other people in the park as well. The thug just doesnt care and decided to come out of his spot, cap the jogger and anyone around him. Even if civilians in a park had weapons, whats to say that they would take the law into their hands and take out the thug? Chances are they would be scared stiff, duck behind a bench or bushes. Unless someone has a military training or any kind of weapon and mental training they arent going to react accordingly to the situation. Yes maybe in some Europe countries they relaxed the gun law? and saw lower crime rate. But were talking about the US here, i doubt we will get the same outcome.

What do you think about guns?

Ya i know made me mad my posts were gone. But ya ill make a thread real fast and be back laters

Wouldnt you like train your cows to explode or something?

I understand Swift that there are alot of bands with a good deal of cds. but the ones you named that have been around for 10+ years, 20+years 40+ years. Alot of bands or solo artists dont last a year.

Im not going to reply to this, even though i just did make a new thread and well discuss.

poor cows

You only named 5 bands with 20+ CD's. I know there are bands out there with 20+ CDs but how long have they been in the business compared to others? But im talking about the majority out there. Maybe people dont download a whole almbum off P2P but they can always download the songs there for now and always get them later. Blank CD's are very very cheap i dont think people care much if they have to re-burn a cd once several more songs come out.[/code]

I agree with mad about the disagreeng and ya im not replying either

How many artists have been out long enough for 20 CD's? And people just dont put one track onto the network, they put the whole CD onto the network for everyone. Even for some reason it is just one track multiply that by thousands and thousands of users and the hundreds of downloads a day.

Meh, someone needs to make a weapons thread, this has gone off thanks to mad

Why would it be harder to achieve a act of violonce if weapons were easier to obtain? It wouldnt, there are people out in the world that just dont care if someone else has a weapon or they will die as long as they take someone else down with them. If the government allowed weapons to be easier obtained and easier to take with you anywhere, what is going to stop someone from going on a killing spree? What is going to stop a gang of people from robbing a store or a house? It wouldnt, it would make it easier for them to do that.

I can see what you are saying but this implies more into physical interaction with people in the real world. Not over a forum site, maybe youre right some people are scared to speak up on the net but why would they be afraid of what someone thinks of them over the net? They will never see that person in life. Youre spewing these beliefs under the Consent Age thread, all of what you say doesnt imply to this threads topic. And youre picture is a lie. Even if we did allow pedestrians to carry concealed weapons anywhere they like, does the cartoonist really think hijackers would come onto a plane with knives?

I wasnt talking about marijuana, i can care less about that. Im talking about other drugs, the harmful ones.