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lol, Losa doesn't even look asian

the actual content of Canada's education system is great, what we need are better teachers, and smaller classrooms.

It's because Spain doesn't have the greedy, money-grabbing oil companies who cover up the alternative methods.

yea pretty much. But think about what you are doing, Astro and many others like you. You have seen/heard that the majority of Christians hate homosexuals. Then you jump to the conclusion that all Christians are close-minded bigots, !@#$%^&*-bent on being ignorant. Doing that makes you just as close-minded as the annoying Christians who you dislike. I disagree with the homosexual lifestyle, I don't hate them, I just disagree with them. Yes, a lot of African-Americans are gangsters, that does not mean that all black people are gangsters. The majority of rapists and pedophiles(some of whom reside in the church, which is horrible) are Caucasian males, that does not mean that all white guys are rapists and pedophiles. In the same way, not all Christians are close-minded bigots. Christians are always accused of being close-minded and ignorant, but many of the people who say this are just as close-minded to what Christians have to say. This will be my last post in here, because this is probably the twentieth discussion I have had about this kind of thing on a forum. They always go in a circle, arguments are repeated numerous times, and it goes nowhere.

on the contrary, I am very comfortable with homosexuals themselves, i just disagree with their lifestyle. I do not hate them, they are people as we all are. One person should never hate another.

I see nothing wrong with the shawls, I have a problem with the possibility of it being a religious custom for muslim men to beat their wives, we really should try and see if it's true. I only have a problem when a culture is crossing the lines of right and wrong. Beating women=wrong.

JDS, no one is bashing women who wear shawls, that's not the topic of this thread.

If Christianity is the justification for hateful acts, then Christianity must take a large amount of the blame. This is especially so when ideas such as killing abortion doctors, hating homosexuals and treating women with inferiority can be immediately derived from interpreting the Bible in a particular way. We say communism and fascism are flawed based on the people who lived by the rules of those political setups. We don't say "fascism is ok, but it's been used by too many evil guys doing evil things in it's name". They did more than say "fascism made me do it", they read the ideology, agreed with it, and acted on it. In the same way a Christian will read the Bible and interpret it in a way that brings about hatred and violence. What I am saying is that those weren't true christians, they just called themselves that. Calling yourself black doesn't make your skin darker, if you're white, or asian. The same way, calling yourself a christian doesn't make you one. You can't just talk the talk, the walking has to be there as well.

actually, that is the golden rule for christianity, not all religions.

I don't think the Bible says anything about women being the boss of the home, and i don't think this is common in the history of Christianity either.... maybe post-war America/Western-Europe, but that's about it. But you're right, both books were written in more sexist times, and both books can thus be interpreted in sexist ways that can culminate in wife-beating. TJ: One case or 50 cases, it doesn't matter, Christianity has more than one case also. When you interpret the Bible or the Quran in a particular way you can justify it. that's nto about the bible, or christianity, that was the hebrew culture of that time. Note: Hebrew culture and christianity are completely different things! In both religions subordination can be interpreted as "he has the right to beat you". Can't you see how telling a man that a woman is inferior to him would lead to the man beating the woman in some cases? Until you produce one scrap of evidence that the quran says "you can beat your wife", then i'm going to assume both religions are as sexist as each-other, and that this sexism is what leads to wife-beatings in both religions. The obvious intepretation? What about this intepretation makes it obvious? I mean, i know there has been alot of media attention for this word since 9/11... did you just suck all that up along with "Saddam = evil" and "atheists aren't patriotic"? I'm absolutely !@#$%^&*ing astounded. Yea i think thats true. TJ: I'm pretty sure it's not normal in Islam either. I've already explained how sexism in a holy-book can lead to the beating of women; in the same way "thou shalt not kill" leads to Christians killing abortion doctors, or the way homosexuals are treated. If you can't see how mild, carefully-written, disgust of a group of people within a holy book can manifest into full-blown hatred with a justification for violence, then it's probably because you don't want to understand it. I don't know the actual verse, but I know for a fact that in the bible it says plainly that women need to be treated with respect, and that men must protect them. I just don't remember the actually verse, I'll look into it. ALSO, what christians used to do, is not the same as what they were supposed to do. What I mean is that even though many people called/call themselves 'christians' they didn't/don't actually do what being a christian entails.

It's all about context, with both. The bible may say that women should let their husbands be in control, but back then, that was only out in public. In public, the man was in charge, but the home belonged to the women. So in the home, the woman was above the man, but in public, the man was above the woman. The bible also says that men need to treat women as the weaker vessel(as in physically not as strong as men), so as men we MUST take care of them and treat them with respect. But, if the qaran specifically says to beat your wife, then that is just wrong, but I would like to see the context behind it. In the bible it says to stone adulterers. The context has to be taken into thought.

5 is way too beneficial to defenders and 6 and 2 are way too beneficial to attackers. They are sorely unbalanced.

Rock/Metal and hardcore for me such as: As I Lay Dying The Devil Wears Prada August Burns Red Underoath

don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining, i'm agreeing that staff can't do anything about it.

^ I agree I'm a decent player, not great, but decent, but I have trouble keeping money simply because of I don't know how to bty properly.

lol attraction, a lot of them did post pics soooo stfu

no, MGS is the same as MGS+. Trust me, I'm in his squad. That's why they are never on at the same time.

the truth? Yea you are, but it's cool though, cuz then we can see all the pictures of stuff you kill and your strange pets

well, I don't like basing, doesn't mean I should go around demanding that basing be done less.

omg! You have a red neck! Irony is a wonderful thing