PsyOps

I think the reason it was posted here was because Nude stepped up and decided to take point on all discussions related to setting changes. Hallu has been back for some time now, and since his return he has been systematically changing settings trying to find the best combo to better suit new players in the game. He has also created many new features that have been pretty cool. Chaos has become a haven for all old timers, and because of that most new players (if any) get stomped out and never come back. Bonuses were never properly tested IMO, I was never a hard core chaos player but thats what i got out of it. It seems to me that Bonuses are just making good players even better. Awarding better players with more of a curve seems like a bad idea. No one's hand was forced here, If you have any suggestions post here and give your thoughts on the subject. Hallu will consider every suggestion, and has. I'd like to add one more thing. Just because you see no activity or no response from hallu, do not make the mistake of assuming he is doing nothing. I may not be a great influence to any decision made in chaos, but i do hear 90% of whats going on behind the curtain. Everyone's perspective, thoughts, opinions, and actions get addressed. I am also not shy about telling him about the things i disagree with! Go minereppers! Down with flagging! and finally do away with bonuses! (or cap them!) - PsyOps

Well svs has always limited team mines, but you only really notice when the team goes crazy mining. I think svs settings are ok. My guess as to why they had it that way was maybe to involve the team more. Personally i'm debating 2 mines per person in my zone vs the 3 mines i have set already per person. I feel less mines will include the team even more, but as far as the team max mines, mine will stay 12.

I've always enjoyed mine repping. I say leave it be. Aud, wheres my pie?

I would suggest taking them out altogether, but if they are to stay I wouldn't suggest resetting. The less time between resets the more likely you are to take the bonuses away from the player who doesn't play as often. Let them build up slowly. Maybe set a Bonus Cap. So players cant horde points. Just my 2 cents. - PsyOps

Seems like gad always does exactly what he complains about. Chaos is supposed to be oriented towards hunters and every last bit of gad's actions and requests have been oriented towards weak unskilled players that back arrow or turret. I've been playing chaos/alpha since 96/97 and pub coords have never been illegal, and i don't see why it should be. For a SKILLED driver, that just makes the game more interesting. If there is an issue to be discussed it should be how to manage freqs when the FreqMode has been dropped and how the remaining freqs should lose the excess players when it does. Maybe add a rule for it, so that in the rare case you actually catch gad in the act, he could be banned. My suggestion has always been perma-ban Gad. Seems like gad has done everything he can to find loopholes in the rules and use them to his advantage. I think i posted about it once before when he was using !rabbit to get away from ppl chasing him. I am one to admit that i am a hunter, and as far as gad back-arrowing and turreting, all is fair in love and war, but i enjoy it. I always jump in and force him to spec like a coward or i end up leaving because he waits everyone out in safe. But when he goes out of his way to cheat in the manner that he does,- like double machines- I think that the zone will benefit greatly if he is banned permanently or for a long time. Stop whining Gad. Quit for good. or maybe just quit playing and do something constructive for ss, design maps, write bots. Perhaps if you were a good influence you would have been given a staff position ages ago. Truth be told, you have nothing good to offer. Where are your ideas? maps? designs? boo i ranted. my appologies. Public coords: i say leave it be. now the vote should be: Perma ban Gad? - you have my vote. -PsyOps

You always seem to get the wrong idea about me barg, or maybe I'm just a victim of circumstance. As far as website, I changed the gfx that very day to show battle and not alpha.(still mulling over the idea of putting up battle). The problem right now has to do with updating drupal to point to the right address. I transfered and copied everything over to Battlesvs.com. But it doesn't want to work properly, i tried htaccess and the install files. Regardless AlphaWest will be taken down as soon as i can point everything to the right directory( directory -> /battle). I just don't want to delete a working copy. (i could redirect but the directory will still be /alpha and i dont want that) Alpha has always been on the server list with 10 ppl ever since you took it down. I have no idea why that is, but you can be sure it has nothing to do with me. You can ask any of the old alpha players and most can confirm.

yeh thats beyond me jab. Thats pretty cool work you got there. Im very limited in 3d stuff and like i said i dont work with a known app. if you need help with anything, something i can help with, just let me know.

tell me if this is what you are looking for. and i dont know that i ever finished the wb, there may be some pieces i forgot to add.psy_wb.rar

well the post was originally meant only for the wb but i thought id show more. The problem is this, as i said before its an app called "Ulead 3d production studio". Now if you guys dont like the ships in the first place then i dunno if its worth the trouble to export them. Looking at the app now... Im looking at the export options and i have [directx model(*.x)...] and then [3D Studio Model (.3DS)...] which im guessing is just for this app. seeing as how this thread has gone for 4 years or so, I'm assuming these models aren't the easiest things to obtain/make. I'm just trying to help. Maybe there should be a sticky on this thread including the 2 files submitted.

Is there a downside to using remote priv msgs. I mean if i were to make a bot that responds to players outside of the arena, would there be any issues/problems? security maybe? Im a noob programmer, so tard speak would be appreciated http://www.ssforum.net/public/style_emoticons/default/thumbsup.gif thx in advance.

http://msguild.org/project_files/wb_psy.gif my attempt at wb http://msguild.org/project_files/ducky.gif wooo ducky. Lots to do on it but i was bored http://msguild.org/project_files/yoshi.gif This is like 1 out of 6 karts that i did for mariokart event these are all old files.

Yeh you are right. maybe i should just stick to remaking the old ships.

yeh the cartoon look comes from lack of texture. Ill have to really try hard and make a nice texture for it, but i suxors. We will have to see how it all comes out. I am open to color/texture suggestions, even suggestions for redesign or new ship.

Well i have had this ship done a while ago. It was meant for an 8th ship in my Battle arena, along with custom settings, but i never got that far. Ive kept track of this thread for a while. I never really wanted to join in cause im really not that experienced with 3d design, not any major ones anyway.(3dmax,maya,blender,lightwave) The ship i made was using Ulead Cool 3d Production Studio. The app was mainly used to throw in 3d effects into a movie not really meant for 3d design, or at least i dot think so. Anyway i made this ship by just making a lot of parts and throwing them together. I think i have a warbird done somewhere and i started on a terrier. This ship uses the warbird engines/exhaust and terrier guns and underbelly-wing thingy. This would not be any good for any 3d type game as it has too many vertices or whatever they are called. Its too complicated. But as you know in ss the images are pre rendered and so it would be easy to use for ss. Oh and i sux at textures so its all fuxored up. I may pick up making more ships later,or maybe even remaking the ones that are left. The only reason i wanted the 3d images was so that i can do anything i want with them for ss art. spin' em, turn'em , size up/down. anyhow here it is. http://msguild.org/project_files/warberrier.gif oh and i also made some karts from marikart double dash and used them as ships for an event i wanted to create, but again its yet another project i did not finish.

more then you? j/k

Im wondering if anyone has any experience with flash. What i pictured was an app that brought up zones and their maps. Something that opens a lvl and reads the tile/map info and displays it in a scrollable window. I believe this would be a good addition to http://www.subspaceonline.com/. To give new interested parties the opportunity to explore each zone and their arenas/subarenas. All you would have to do is keep an archive of the most popular arenas in each zone. Either by having a bot jump in and gather the files or have the zone sysops update as needed. Again im not sure its possible but another nice feature could maybe be a window like the one that continuum has on startup. Something on the webpage that tells you how many people are in x zones. just some ideas. (not sure if this was the proper place to post this)

I have a botcore that hasnt officially been released, but ive done wonders with it. I believe the botcore is in c++ but its written using .NET. You are able to write bots using VB,C#,J#, or C++. Using Microsoft Visual Studio makes it super easy to make a bot. Ive been making bots with it for a couple years now and have been learning how t code using this bot. It is has very good documents with it. if you are interested i can give you a copy. Some examples of the bots i made are: Sentinel Bot:(in C#)This bot uses 2 bots. Bots run off of a cfg file. I tried to make it for non-coders to use. Basically you can drop a gun turret(sentinel) in any location that you want simply by plotting x,y in a cfg. You can customize the weapon it fires, its fire rate, and how far out it initiates fire against a player(prox). I even managed to send thor packets with shrap wooo hax. The way this bot works is it has one bot in spec that gathers all the player packets by speccing all in game players (cycles) and it uses the other bot to place it in every spot that is needed to fire. This way you are able to place as many gun turrets as needed. i haven't pushed the limits with it so i dont know how many sentinels would bog down the bot. xZonechat bot: Alpha has been shut down and i have lost my dev zone. The chaos staff has made me a smod and are considering making me sysops. But until then i need full access to all commands and privileges to dev. So i made this bot. What it does is logs into the chats i want inside of chaos and monitors the arena messages(i put it in battle), and it also logs into my zone and just relays all messages. This way i am tied into ssc without using the biller. Now keep in mind i have not taken any proramming classes. i started out with twcore and i started to code in java. Ive also coded a game for the PSP using the scripting language LUA. Since then a friend of mine was making a core for alpha and i helped him debug it by jumping in and doing as he said basically. I started making bots with it using c# because it is very similar to java. hm more came out then i expected. sorry for the longwinded post. )= let me know if you are interested. -Psyops ps: UDP is the player who made the core.(AlphaCore) He and Eris cowrote whinebot long ago. I think chaos still uses whinebot.

Its being discussed in the sscouncil forums. Possible options are: 1.) Alpha stays offline. 2.) The Underlord takes it over (i've discussed it with him and he is mulling it over) 3.) It goes up in Chaos. (I informed Sneakerz and he has sent an e-mail to barg asking if he can put it up in chaos) 4.) I take it over (very unlikely seeing as barg doesnt want alpha changed in any way, and i cant promise to leave it alone- like adding bots to pub)

I just wanted to know what info is inside of a lvl file. How is the tile location and type stored? and could you show a small example? BTW awesome work on editor. Ive linked your site to many ss'ers.

try not to make it obvious underlord. At the very least you could have changed the name of the arena, the one you claimed to have never seen before in alpha.

ok thnx appreciate the help. Underlord is no gentleman so i guess i have my answer. And although it may seem unoriginal and simple it is far from it. Underlord will soon find out. That arena is a mix of the unknown tileset in continuum and a monster bot written by Mystery Meat. If he wants to copy without giving due credit so be it. But im ganna laugh at its failure. Took me a year to get that map right. I just figured that everyone within the sscouncil and sscx had an agreement that this type of behavior wasn't allowed.

?go battle- Alpha (took me years to work it all out) then the copy ?go battle - Chaos Underlord is saying that it is nothing like my arena. And that it was created without knowing that there was one up in alpha. but somehow it has the same name. anyhow this is the second time i had to deal with chaos stealing something. Last time they stole tiles i had used for alpha. I have everything backed up so there was no denying it. All i had to do last time was politely as hallu and he took them down. Underlord doesn't seem like he is going budge.

this prick made a comment before about wishing my son would die. This because he got banned from alpha for obsessing over the word ngr. Now to go to the lengths of researching my sons condition and to insult me in that manner i would say more then justifies a ban. He made the comment and i let it go, then he shows up with a macro reguarding my son. Either way, as long as i am staff in alpha he will no longer be allowed there. Thats where i draw the line. I would do this for anyone. Ive never heard any type of har!@#$%^&*ment in this manner before. Not this specific. I would intervene with anyone if this were to happen to anyone else. My son will need Heart operations until he is about 18-20.(best case scenario) O.A.R. Knows this. As for OAR i would suggest all zones look at his behavior and ask themselves if they want this type of mean-spirited inhuman vindictiveness in it.