ok FIRST: Hakaku, instead of shooting the idea down, why not help develope it. SECOND: This isn't deva pub, its a league. and the idea of the league is to control the base. if doesn't matter if you use a trench flag in fact thats probably the best choice. hakaku's idea is completely different than jds's and would mean changing the whole thing. also the league games would probably be judged by mods not a bot, cause bots are stupid, mods aren't. anyways, I'm all for the timer and control the base thing. in fact, I sorta thought of it (rasta did too)