Tiq

My mistake about the Persian not Arab bit. The only fact about Iran is that their leader wants to build a nuke. That does not mean the entire population is calling for the destruction of America. You've got to learn to realize that foreign nations do not have some kind of an American Bloodlust. They do not necessarily call for the destruction of America as a nation. They are more often calling for a regime change in the States. And, let's face it, a number of Americans would also support a regime change. I did not say that they were succeeding directly after WW2. I was pointing out that TODAY, foreign products, are superior to shoddy American-made goods. This is why America's Big 3, among other things, are falling flat as opposed to foreign made vehicles. And I did not say that a country is crap for relying on trading. I said the AMERICAN PRODUCTS ARE CRAP. There is a difference, realize that. The only thing that you have in response to what I said is my mistake of saying that Iranians were Arabs as opposed to Persians. Other than that, you've fallen back on the same argument, which is that every single Iranian is calling for your head on a platter. It is this kind of paranoia that is a direct result of the media forcing fear down your throats. There is a fine line between being cautious, and being paranoid.

These people? You don't know anything about what the PEOPLE of Iran think, only what the politicians think. You only know what the news shows you, and this makes you blind. Don't flatter yourself, bud. The vast majority of Arabs don't give a two-penny !@#$%^&* about bombing your precious nation into the ground, and that's a fact. This is why Americans are so afraid: because people like you, who really know nothing of what's going on overseas, claim that people, for absolutely no reason, want to murder them and their children. In reality, most of the world think that the States is filled with pompous, self-glorifying jack!@#$%^&*es who enjoy the McDonalds-esque scent of their own excrament. Arrogance, or claims that the world is constantly thinking of ways to undermine/destroy America, does not help better the image of America. If anything, it makes it look like a nation of paranoid pansies, to the rest of the world. Yeah, and the United States of America is the main fear-induced country. Don't try to bring the Jews in to back up your argument, the time is long gone when every Arab in the world wants to destroy Israel. You're looking at a small group of very organized terrorists, and judging an entire people based on what you see them do. The Atomic Bombs were dropped on Japan, I don't see them casting a wary glance towards the U.S., wondering when the next drop is gonna happen. No, they are doing something prodcutive: exploiting the vast U.S. market since the American-made products are currently crap. No, you're an Islamophobic. Because you think that every Friday, Muslims pray for the destruction of you and your grandmother, and the Jews. People like ya gotta get over themselves: no one cares enough about you to want to kill you. Surprise Surprise!

I dunno, I always look at a World Power as a nation that has a large amount of influence over the Global Politics of the world, not just country that has a lot of military power.

Of course Iran is a budding world power. Look at the paranoia and fear they are causing. Once you got nukes, you suddenly matter. Because you have a weapon that can kill millions. Can you really argue having that kind of weapon is not power? I suppose you can, but it would be rather stupid.

THE WHIRL POOL: Superpower has nuke --------> Superpower sees budding world powers trying to get nukes ------------> Superpower says "no!" ------------> World power gets pissed off, and builds regardless. ------------> Superpower says "wtf?" ---------> World power says "You can't !@#$%^&*ing expect us to disarm if YOU'RE not going to. We want that power too." -----------> Superpower continues to try to get world power to disarm. ---------> More budding nations decide that they want that power, and build it. This is why anyone who gets nukes will never disarm willingly. Once you get that power, you sucked in, no matter how much the big boys tell you "no." Hence the name "THE WHIRL POOL" It's basically a battle of egos. No one is going to disarm until someone blows someone else up.

Yeah, but Grizzly Man had some mental problems. Anyone see that movie? Kinda sad, even tho he was a bit of a nutter. RIP GRIZZLY MAN AND CROCODILE HUNTER !@#$%^&* PETA, they are psychos.

That's rather linear thinking. Not every Arab nation's aim is to destroy the infidels. In fact, that is only the aim of the terrorists, and terrorists are not in charge of the countries in the Middle East. Thugs are. And thugs want, more than anything, power as a means to further their thuggish nature. If Iran were to obtain nuclear weapons, it would be because it wants to tip the scales in its favor, in terms of GLOBAL POLITICS. People get lost in this whole terrorism thing and forget that the greedy pricks of the United States or Western Europe are not unique. There are greedy pricks the world over, and they don't really care much about such mundane things as religious prophecy or whatever. It all comes down to power. This is part of the reason why the world hates the US. They see it as arrogance, that the US has the right to dictate who has nukes, and who doesn't. Even the cleverest/sneakest weasels/politicians of the US will be hardpressed to convince nations to disarm or not pursue nuclear goals, unless they themselves disarm. And God knows that will never happen. Jews are perhaps among the hardest working people in the world. If they are rich, it is not fate. It's because they played smart, and persistently. And of course a little bit dishonestly, because everyone knows that you can't get rich through pure honesty and integrity. Gonna be impossibly difficult to make nations disarm when the US will never in their wildest dreams disarm. Once you got power like that, you're dead scared to lose it. It's all a power game. Politics.

I think pansified is a more appropriate term. I do not believing in fighting for that which you don't believe in, which is why I would be hardpressed to participate in Iraq. That and I have personal reasons. ...But I love this country, and if it came to a draft, I would not be the first in line, but I wouldn't turn tail and run if they came knockin' on my door.

Of course a draft is a near impossibility given the hostile atmosphere that would be created as a result of people being forced into the military. I am not at all questioning America's ability to cause death on a massive scale. Would be relatively ignorant to do that since there are a number of incidences that would destroy that argument. Hitler thought that he could take Russia, Europe, and North Africa in one fell swoop. He had absolute control over Germany and could thus exploit its power completely, and he still failed to hold on to any of those areas in the end. Bush does not have anything close to that kind of power, so he will be hardpressed to occupy three Middle Eastern nations while trying to maintain order and/or catch terrorists. Bush's scare tactics were most effective prior to Iraq, because that was when the terror alerts and what not were still new to the public. Everyone and their grandmother was afraid of dying at the hands of some temperamental/misguided Muslim youths. Today, people look at Iraq and see a cluster!@#$%^&* of mistakes, and a !@#$%^&*storm of conflict. They also see their sons and daughter dying daily. Enough families have received one of those "notes of regret" to decide that going to war with another country is not in their best interest. So while Bush is employing similar scare tactics, and while in this case Iran may actually be a threat, people are more hesitant than ever to send more soldiers into the Middle East. So as much as Bush may want to go into Iran, I'm thinkin' that the American people will not readily stand for it if they still have people in Iraq...then again, the American people voted Bush back into office because of the gay marriage issue. Give 'em a second chance, I say.

The United States do not have the resources necessary to successfully subdue both Iran and Iraq. Look what's happened in Iraq: a flood of terrorists, considering the fact that there is weak border control. Terrorists foreign to Iraq see Iraq as an ideal place to gather, and because so many of them are gathered, the United States spends more and more resources. The U.S. can't afford to stretch their resources so thin...but given Bush's history, I am not going to bet that he WON'T try to subdue Iran

Is that you're attack on the staff Delic? If anything, that hurts your case more than it helps. You are as annoying on that chat as you are on most of your other chats

You coming on to me?

Fabrication. TiQ is 17. And even if I was 7, I'd give your rectum one !@#$%^&* of a thrashing, just so's I can say "I left my mark on White 2pac, and he took it likes a !@#$%^&*." :woo: :woo: :woo:

R.I.P.

Or, in TiQman's terms: Delic is bringing the zone down with his whiny at!@#$%^&*ude, and can therefore go sodomize himself.

You have 1 new message. Type ?messages to read anusface captured the flag. Score: Team 0:(1) Team 1:(3) Game time: 0h27m11s Game over. Winner: Team 1. Reward: 300 +Jackpot: 718 TiQ> ?messages [sep 03 16:17] Excalibur.ava: suck my !@#$%^&* That's a guy I banned for a day

rofl

A good question my friend! Such sermons are typically conducted by reverends, or priests, and the like. I come to the conclusion that Delic's post does indeed count. He certainly fits the profile of a priest, as he often refers to quoting Scripture and/or gangster rappers when he has nothing else to say. That and he has an insatiable appe!@#$%^&*e for seven year old boys.

I would welcome such an image if I had to choose between what I am talking about, and that.

Nah, the problem was my obscenity filter was turned on for some reason. I still have that stuff logged, but I think it is too vile/disgusting to show

pffft, i have it logged in case i ever need to defend my statements.

pffft. you left out the whole section on the latin girls and why i cried about it in fact, i think some of that is fabricated

TRASHED...for good reason.

TRASHED..unfortunately

Good luck Sama. You'll be missed