Telson

The zone is dead, simply because anyone with common sense gave up on it. The top List: Elite One Fujin Frost Enterprise25 Vegita Vile Requiem MMaverick Telson JimTheChin Noriaki Caress Pernille Nurples Rifleman and a few more..... This zone forum has been dead for 2 weeks now. Atleast with relevant topics Hanging around in 17th is like stalking an ex-girlfriend, let go and move on

The Game will eventually die off. zone after zone. Its all about the gameplay and eyecandy. I spent 2 years of my life creating the eyecandy for Subspace and 17th Parallel. Everything you can "see" in this game i could and did create. We developers are a dying breed. Its the gfx and bot developers who kept the game going for so long and now we are leaving. The game is losing its talented developers. Yes the game is outdated, but most of us dont want to waste our talents on a game with no apparent future. and like L.C. said the only reason i stuck with this game so long was because of my dialup modem

Doubtful that RM is back, he probably just stop by like the rest of us old elite noobs

I got popped with a wooden paddle in 7th grade. 3 times on the !@#$%^&* for skipping school. Even though my parents approved it i still think it was wrong. Those ASSS It kept me straight. If you dont discipline them, they will never learn. My sister for example never finished highschool, Is/was addicted to drugs and got pregnant at 18. She wasnt disciplined until her teenage years but then it was too late. But then again she started rebelling after my parents divorced and that made everything worse.

I have know criz for years, hes one of those players that love testing other people's limits. They're playing mind games and you fell for their trap. As a sysop you have the right to govern DS however you choose to. If they dont like it, tough !@#$%^&*. If you dont keep a level head, they're walk right over you. As for the profanity, the word(s) should be in your obscene.txt file. If people get offended, instruct them to use ?ignore name or ?ignore.txt and that should be the end of it. If they byp!@#$%^&* constantly, threaten to *kill # their !@#$%^&*. If you make a big deal about it, things will only get worse from there because all they want is attention.

i dont see why they look bad.. shows that i have experience running zones, even if they were small. and it doesnt convey that i was fired from either, which i wasnt anyway. and besides.. other former sysops have it as well, take vegita for example. It may show experience, but a sig is a not a resume Telson SS/Cont Jack-of-all-Trades Former- l33t n00blet

I highly recommend that you use Manus's sets if you havent already!. What can i say, the guy is talented If not, go with an infantry style approach.

Ive mentioned this before. All skirmish needs is an objective, a GOAL! gaining 1k for capturing a CP gets very repetive, quickly. Have the center Cp act as a goal or flag. Team A Captures the CP 5 times. A prize or BONUS point reward is given. Perhaps the Jackpot that is ac!@#$%^&*ilated through killing. OR Instead of 1 CP, make skirmish involve 3 CPs. As the Pop goes up the full Koth game could be completed.

On the Advertising Bid: A good start would be this forum, which u have accomplished. Have your staff mention the zone in their sig. Make sure your zone is listed on all major websites, IE getcontinuum.com and the subspace navbar See if u can get ur zone listed on those "news" sites a few players have. Perhaps an article about ur new zone. What else do they have to talk about Create a zone chat. ?chat=complex Advertise in your own zone with periodical messages..

Just thought i would throw my 2 cents in before anyone else. I have also added a poll for feedback to aid the staff. Map/Sets: I always thought the map was too big. The sets and the map dont fit well imo. The Map is too open. Granted open space is needed to capture CPs. The Map is an Infantry style layout with Tight Quarter Basing sets. It just does not mix. Its an MG Map with 17th Settings. Either the map needs to be more base like or the sets need to be more of an Infantry Feel. If this zone wants to be successful, it needs to stay away from the familar concept of 17ths Shipset. Otherwise, it will be changing its sets over and over like 17th has done in the past. The Gameplay Concept is Golden. Totally original. If MG had this concept, they'd be more popular than TW. If you took away the gameplay concept, you would have a soccer game in 17th. Not to mention the Graphics were recycled from 17th Parallel. The Complex concept was originally taken from a Team mode used in FPS games. This concept similuates what soliders do in battle to take over territorial checkpoints "Hills". Look at the game Star Wars Battlefront if u dont get it. The ships should be these soliders. This zone will not succeed until it loses its 17th Parallel Identity.

good thought but unneccessary. The delay will only frustrate/turn away legit newcomers to our forums. Spam is unavoidable, however the mods are doing a good job of keeping it under control and thats all that matters.

noobs :/ you couldnt handle the telly!

woo my Favorite Hamster. Hit me up, will chat sometime

ahhh... the good ol days <----------- Goofy 2

In the old days this is how it went down.... Hoho- Map Caress- Settings Mike- Zone Managment Those are their strong points... Mike is taking his sweet!@#$%^&* time like always. When he rushes into things, they go horribly wrong (IE:Dark_Nexus). I mean come on, the zone is hanging by a thread (again) and hes posting about cows. The 17th has gone into a "void" twice before in the past. This is just the 3rd time. 17th's time is up, there is no life in this zone. Turn the zone into a zombie event, then the zone will actually fit its theme. Scratch the rumble in pub idea, that is just asking for bot bugs/abuse and utter confusion. Think of something logical, such as a pub that utilizes rumbles' gameplay instead of its map. IE: starting out with smaller freqs. 3v3v4v4 etc... why do u think 2v2 and 3v3 were such a success. it sure as !@#$%^&* wasnt the map. I know all this rabblings is useless considering the fact that 17th has no development team or pop for that matter but whatever.

and SNOo wouldn't be SNOo without a bit a FLOo. something like that.

only if u want to download something with 0 players in it

No Staff No Bots No Population No Development The Only thing the zone has going for it is a useless website and a forum that has one relevant topic (this one). This forum is basically a twin of ssf's general forum/trash forum now. The pubmap has a non-accessible rumble map for a north. Why let the zone bleed to death? Just shoot the poor thing and put it out of its misery. 17th isnt even worthy of its ssc billing anymore. SSCU 17th Parallel is NOT a zone

I have a few images, i made for 17th that have never been seen before, ill post them later.

and i dont remember quoting mmavvy lol

On the "add reply" page the textbox column and smiley/access column are not aligned right. Instead of Left to Right, i get Top to Bottom. Does that make sense lol? New Topic page is the same way anyways a bug i found also the ninja.gif smiley is a broken link

You guys underestimate Mike. He has done plenty for 17th. Past and present. Mike is the puppetmaster of 17th. The only reason complex failed was that it was extremely dependent on bots. We were developing a smaller map for complex which would of solved everything when we started having bot issues, because of Nurples's server. Myself, being Hsysop at the time, had no choice but to revert back to a bot friendly pub (IE: East/West Soccer) due to a severe decline in population. Staff in the past (with the exception of Dark Nexus and Vile) always did what was in the best intrest of the majority. Poles and testing were done before hand. The zone just had to many whiners. Hsysop is overrated. Delic, Creatix, Tex, . They will run into the same problems previous HSysops have had in the past. Compared to the names mentioned, Manus would be a decent choice for Hsysop in any zone. Unfortunately he is smart enough to not take the job.

lol um?

congrats, your first post after a year rofl.....

yea so retire already, u jerk. its been 2 years!