the only people that noticed the prox bug were people that had played SVS for a long time and probably still do the way beginners.subspace.net has it, there is only one file as for the places that list .38 and .39pr1 separately...it is stupid, yes, but there's nothing we can do to make people smart I agree, the SVS people involved with that have reached new heights of gayness ...and? even if .39 wasn't a prerelease and instead was a complete and full release, they'd still have to go download it to deal with the prox bug...something they'd never notice anyways...but I digress since they play TW or EG (or whatever) so regularly and those zones are not mentioning to them to upgrade their client, why would they bother?