LearJett+ Posted June 26, 2005 Report Posted June 26, 2005 Every single detainee at Gitmo hates America and wants America destroyed. Each of them was captured during the War on Terrorism in countries such as Afghanistan, therefore they are more or less POWs (Prisoners of War). POWs do not have to be charged with anything. Boo Ya. LearJett+
candygirl Posted June 26, 2005 Report Posted June 26, 2005 The following are excerpts from an investigation by Maj. Gen. Antonio M. Taguba (which was ordered by Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez, commander of Joint Task Force-7. (Complete text of the Taguba report is posted at the MSNBC site.) In addition, several detainees also described the following acts of abuse, which under the cir!@#$%^&*stances, I find credible based on the clarity of their statements and supporting evidence provided by other witnesses a. Breaking chemical lights and pouring the phosphoric liquid on detainees; b. Threatening detainees with a charged 9mm pistol; c. Pouring cold water on naked detainees; d. Beating detainees with a broom handle and a chair; e. Threatening male detainees with rape; f. Allowing a military police guard to s!@#$%^&*ch the wound of a detainee who was injured after being slammed against the wall in his cell; g. Sodomizing a detainee with a chemical light and perhaps a broom stick. h. Using military working dogs to frighten and intimidate detainees with threats of attack, and in one instance actually biting a detainee. (T)he intentional abuse of detainees by military police personnel included the following acts: a. Punching, slapping, and kicking detainees; jumping on their naked feet; b. Videotaping and photographing naked male and female detainees; c. Forcibly arranging detainees in various sexually explicit positions for photographing; d. Forcing detainees to remove their clothing and keeping them naked for several days at a time; e. Forcing naked male detainees to wear women’s underwear; f. Forcing groups of male detainees to masturbate themselves while being photographed and videotaped; g. Arranging naked male detainees in a pile and then jumping on them; h. Positioning a naked detainee on a MRE Box, with a sandbag on his head, and attaching wires to his fingers, toes, and penis to simulate electric torture; i. Writing “I am a Rapest†(sic) on the leg of a detainee alleged to have forcibly raped a 15-year old fellow detainee, and then photographing him naked; j. Placing a dog chain or strap around a naked detainee’s neck and having a female Soldier pose for a picture; k. A male MP guard having sex with a female detainee; l. Using military working dogs (without muzzles) to intimidate and frighten detainees, and in at least one case biting and severely injuring a detainee; m. Taking photographs of dead Iraqi detainees. These findings are amply supported by written confessions provided by several of the suspects, written statements provided by detainees, and witness statements. The various detention facilities operated by the 800th MP Brigade have routinely held persons brought to them by Other Government Agencies (OGAs) without accounting for them, knowing their iden!@#$%^&*ies, or even the reason for their detention. The Joint Interrogation and Debriefing Center (JIDC) at Abu Ghraib called these detainees “ghost detainees.†On at least one occasion, the 320th MP Battalion at Abu Ghraib held a handful of “ghost detainees†(6- for OGAs that they moved around within the facility to hide them from a visiting International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) survey team. This maneuver was deceptive, contrary to Army Doctrine, and in violation of international law.
Greased_Lightning Posted June 26, 2005 Report Posted June 26, 2005 Regarding the Guantanamo detainees, the gov't needs to !@#$%^&* or get of the pot. That's all I have to say.
LearJett+ Posted June 26, 2005 Report Posted June 26, 2005 The following are excerpts from an investigation by Maj. Gen. Antonio M. Taguba (which was ordered by Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez, commander of Joint Task Force-7. (Complete text of the Taguba report is posted at the MSNBC site.) In addition, several detainees also described the following acts of abuse, which under the cir!@#$%^&*stances, I find credible based on the clarity of their statements and supporting evidence provided by other witnessesThese findings are amply supported by written confessions provided by several of the suspects, written statements provided by detainees, and witness statements.Make up your mind.... are they in an investigation? Claims by detainees? Written confessions? Where are your sources? Anyone can say this on a forum without any fact. Without citation this is just bull!@#$%^&*.
SamHughes Posted June 27, 2005 Report Posted June 27, 2005 The following are excerpts from an investigation by Maj. Gen. Antonio M. Taguba (which was ordered by Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez, commander of Joint Task Force-7. (Complete text of the Taguba report is posted at the MSNBC site.) In addition, several detainees also described the following acts of abuse, which under the cir!@#$%^&*stances, I find credible based on the clarity of their statements and supporting evidence provided by other witnessesThese findings are amply supported by written confessions provided by several of the suspects, written statements provided by detainees, and witness statements.Make up your mind.... are they in an investigation? Claims by detainees? Written confessions? Where are your sources? Anyone can say this on a forum without any fact. Without citation this is just bull!@#$%^&*.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Google's your citation; just search for "Breaking chemical lights and pouring the phosphoric liquid on detainees" And was it not posted,The following are excerpts from an investigation by Maj. Gen. Antonio M. Taguba (which was ordered by Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez' date=' commander of Joint Task Force-7. (Complete text of the Taguba report is posted at the MSNBC site.)[/quote'] What exactly are you talking about, when you say, "without citation"?
MonteZuma Posted June 27, 2005 Report Posted June 27, 2005 Where are your sources? Anyone can say this on a forum without any fact. Without citation this is just bull!@#$%^&*.Did you read the post? The source was a report by Major General Antonio M. Taguba. He is Deputy !@#$%^&*istant Secretary of Defense for Reserve Affairs (Readiness, Training & Mobilization), US army. It doesn't get much more authoritative than that. Heh.
candygirl Posted June 27, 2005 Report Posted June 27, 2005 There is info out there" you only have to look for it. I have seen some of the things on the news that i posted (pick) Try looking on The NewYorker They plan on closing down Guantanimo bay anyway (seen this on the news 3 days ago "dont know if that will happen.
LearJett+ Posted June 27, 2005 Report Posted June 27, 2005 Without citation means she has no sources. She three different things as to how she got that list. Post a link to this "report" or it's just garbage. Anyone can say anything on here and say that it's fact. Prove it. LearJett+
candygirl Posted June 27, 2005 Report Posted June 27, 2005 Without citation means she has no sources. She three different things as to how she got that list. Post a link to this "report" or it's just garbage. Anyone can say anything on here and say that it's fact. Prove it. LearJett+<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Open your eyes and click on the link that was posted"by me above your post. Its called The NewYorker Its a link ya know.
LearJett+ Posted June 27, 2005 Report Posted June 27, 2005 First of all, it is widely known that the New Yorker is liberal, and that the media will slander and misrepresent the data that they have. Secondly, you said these things such as pouring phosphoric liquid on detainees happened in Gitmo, but in your 'article' they happen at Abu Ghraib. Get your facts straight. LearJett+
MonteZuma Posted June 27, 2005 Report Posted June 27, 2005 I think you need to get your facts straight LearJet. You are reading stuff that isn't there. Here is the original report: --->link<--- For those with short attention span....direct quotes from the original report...: 6. (S) I find that the intentional abuse of detainees by military police personnel included the following acts: a. (S) Punching, slapping, and kicking detainees; jumping on their naked feet; b. (S) Videotaping and photographing naked male and female detainees; c. (S) Forcibly arranging detainees in various sexually explicit positions for photographing; d. (S) Forcing detainees to remove their clothing and keeping them naked for several days at a time; e. (S) Forcing naked male detainees to wear women's underwear; f. (S) Forcing groups of male detainees to masturbate themselves while being photographed and videotaped; g. (S) Arranging naked male detainees in a pile and then jumping on them; h. (S) Positioning a naked detainee on a MRE Box, with a sandbag on his head, and attaching wires to his fingers, toes, and penis to simulate electric torture; i. (S) Writing "I am a Rapest" (sic) on the leg of a detainee alleged to have forcibly raped a 15-year old fellow detainee, and then photographing him naked; j. (S) Placing a dog chain or strap around a naked detainee's neck and having a female Soldier pose for a picture; k. (S) A male MP guard having sex with a female detainee; l. (S) Using military working dogs (without muzzles) to intimidate and frighten detainees, and in at least one case biting and severely injuring a detainee; m. (S) Taking photographs of dead Iraqi detainees. 8. (U) In addition, several detainees also described the following acts of abuse, which under the cir!@#$%^&*stances, I find credible based on the clarity of their statements and supporting evidence provided by other witnesses (ANNEX 26): a. (U) Breaking chemical lights and pouring the phosphoric liquid on detainees; b. (U) Threatening detainees with a charged 9mm pistol; c. (U) Pouring cold water on naked detainees; d. (U) Beating detainees with a broom handle and a chair; e. (U) Threatening male detainees with rape; f. (U) Allowing a military police guard to s!@#$%^&*ch the wound of a detainee who was injured after being slammed against the wall in his cell; g. (U) Sodomizing a detainee with a chemical light and perhaps a broom stick. h. (U) Using military working dogs to frighten and intimidate detainees with threats of attack, and in one instance actually biting a detainee. CONCLUSION1. (U) Several US Army Soldiers have committed egregious acts and grave breaches of international law at Abu Ghraib/BCCF and Camp Bucca, Iraq. Furthermore, key senior leaders in both the 800th MP Brigade and the 205th MI Brigade failed to comply with established regulations, policies, and command directives in preventing detainee abuses at Abu Ghraib (BCCF) and at Camp Bucca during the period August 2003 to February 2004.
candygirl Posted June 28, 2005 Report Posted June 28, 2005 Found this link anyway this is getting old
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